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Dog's Life vs Human's Life

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I miss some detail here. Was he warned? Was it his own dog? Could he have been stopped without killing him?
I avoided details because some posters always
seek to distract from the theme posed, & pursue
some separate argument, derailing the thread.
And as we can see, they did exactly that.

The thread served its purpose, & has died.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Yeah, but they are everywhere. Only treat humans based on a cost benefit analysis. Already happening, in disaster medicine that is call triage. In the welfare it happens with considering the cost of helping a human.
So for a limited specific situation you could consider the worth of a service dog of some kind and consider it worth killing a human over that. It is an utility assessment.
Now do I agree? Irrelevant other than how I vote and if I choose to act otherwise. It is a part of how humans consider the worth of humans versus a given use/loss of recourses.
Well I know that humans are often valued according to certain unwritten rules - especially if they have criminal intent - but I think we are on slippery ground when we start to assess non-human life into such decisions. And as to which I think we are into dangerous territory.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Well I know that humans are often valued according to certain unwritten rules - especially if they have criminal intent - but I think we are on slippery ground when we start to assess non-human life into such decisions. And as to which I think we are into dangerous territory.

Yeah, I get what you are saying, but this example is not really unique and the rule are not even always unwritten as such.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
What do you think would have happened if those in charge of enforcing immoral laws didn't become complicit with it? Would Nazi German have been possible? Nope, it wouldn't have gone that far.
While you are right, you already lost the debate according to Godwin's law.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
While you are right, you already lost the debate according to Godwin's law.
Not so...
Excerpted...
Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies,[1] is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison to Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1.[2]
:
In June 2018, Godwin wrote an opinion piece in the Los Angeles Times denying the need to update or amend the rule. He rejected the idea that whoever invokes Godwin's law has lost the argument....
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Not so...
Excerpted...
Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies,[1] is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison to Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1.[2]
:
In June 2018, Godwin wrote an opinion piece in the Los Angeles Times denying the need to update or amend the rule. He rejected the idea that whoever invokes Godwin's law has lost the argument....
From the same source:
"There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[2] than others. For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress.[9] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.[10]"
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
From the same source:
"There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[2] than others. For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress.[9] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.[10]"
You dare contradict Godwin himself?
Also the poster dint make a comparison to Nazi Germany.
It was only introduced to address a concept.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No, I am not commenting on the article. But yes, in principle I accept that there can be contexts that warrant the killing of a human for a given situation.
That doesn't answer the question....
"Are you OK with killing a human if it might save a dog's life?"
 
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