Dome of the Rock

[.lava]

The Abyss is like this giant junk yard for immortal creatures or spirits. It is a place you must pass through between earth and heaven along this pathway. These codes or secrets you spoke of maintained that not just anyone could make this journey. They had to be special indeed. To even attempt this journey without peril, one must have their mind in perfect balance. The ability to do good and evil are perfectly balanced. Only the most pure, powerful and wise would be able to complete this journey between heaven and earth. An average mortal man would perish attempting this Journey.

People like Mohammad or Jesus come to mind could make the journey. I think of it as the path the Angels take from heaven to earth as well.

I doubt Idris studied the Tarot, but I bet you he might have studied the Qabalah.

Please excuse me if my posts are not on topic. I find this thread fasinating.

i am sorry, i did not mean to say Idris (PBUH) studied tarot. ancient knowledge becomes something else entirely different as time goes by. in my opinion what he learned can not be as simple as daily astrological stuff that's published on newspapers. it must be much more sofisticated than that. i was trying to say maybe -just maybe- from one generation to another pure science of stars and skies went to pieces and became different than original one.

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[Reverend Rick]

i am sorry, i did not mean to say Idris (PBUH) studied tarot. ancient knowledge becomes something else entirely different as time goes by. in my opinion what he learned can not be as simple as daily astrological stuff that's published on newspapers. it must be much more sofisticated than that. i was trying to say maybe -just maybe- from one generation to another pure science of stars and skies went to pieces and became different than original one.

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I believe they studied numeralogy as well back then. I agree the newspapers do an injustice to the science they studied back then. The so called experts of today know very little about which they speak (newspaper folks).

Our religions started out the exact same right up to Noah's flood. After that, information is different. The more I learn, I realise just how much I don't know.

Peace be upon you .lava

Perhaps I can learn more reading this thread. Thanks for the conversation.

 

[Caladan]

Yes I know of the Hittite Empire and the Battle of Kadesh. I am not sure where Kadesh is, however. Is that the same as Qadesh, in Syria?

Yes, Kadesh was around the Orontes river, in what is today Syria.
In fact Ramesses II who made some curious tactical errors during this campaign was close to losing his life, a force called Ne`arin which many believe to be a Canaanite force within the Egyptian army is said to have come to his aid at his critical personal danger during the battle of Kadesh, which he seem to have bravely and barely get out alive of.

 

[Bowman]

Muhammad died in Medina in 632, right?

Then why is there a tradition that says Muhammad ascended to heaven from the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem?

Did Muhammad ever set foot on Jerusalem? Or is that just another tradition?

This is because "Muhammad" is actually an epithet for the Biblical Jesus Christ.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

lava this was a while back in the thread, but when I was Shia we always associated Isdris in the Quran with Enoch.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

We also associated some like Hud with Zoroaster and Dhul-Kfil with Guatama Buddha

 

[.lava]

lava this was a while back in the thread, but when I was Shia we always associated Isdris in the Quran with Enoch.

i haven't studied this in our teachings. but there's a guy, a researcher, he writes about it. maybe Idris and Enoch are the same people. if i am not mistaken that was one of his claims. can't recall for sure though

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[.lava]

We also associated some like Hud with Zoroaster and Dhul-Kfil with Guatama Buddha

i don't know. i don't even recognize some those names

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[Bowman]

Muhammad died in Medina in 632, right?

Then why is there a tradition that says Muhammad ascended to heaven from the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem?

Did Muhammad ever set foot on Jerusalem? Or is that just another tradition?

The Dome of the Rock was originally an early Arab Christian shrine.

The term "Muhammad" was never a proper name at this time and merely was an epithet for the Biblical Jesus Christ.

 

[A-ManESL]

We also associated some like Hud with Zoroaster and Dhul-Kfil with Guatama Buddha

The Prophet Hud is mentioned in the Quran (11:50) and so is Dhul-Kifl (38:48). Although the latter is sometimes identified with Ezekiel, the following may be relevant:

...some of the Muslim Indian commentators have considered the prophet Dhu'l-i-Kifl mentioned in the Quran to be the Buddha of Kifl (Kapilavastu) and the Fig tree of Surah 95 to be the Bodhi tree under which the Buddha recieved his illumination.-Sufi essays by Seyyed Hossein Nasr. SUNY Press, 1972. Pg 132

 

[super.girl]

Yes .. Mohammed ascended to heaven from Jerusalem

 

[Bowman]

The inner octagon of the Dome of the Rock contains pre-Koranic verses praising the Biblical Jesus Christ as the original "Muhammad"!

 

[bowingtoGod]

Even Islamic scholars debate whether or not the Night Journey was actually physical or just spiritual. But most side with physical too.

 

[Bowman]

Even Islamic scholars debate whether or not the Night Journey was actually physical or just spiritual. But most side with physical too.

This pertains to Jesus, brother...