Donald Trump is digging his own grave

[Prometheus85]

Yes, yes, yes, yes



Correct.



No, its not a change, its a twofold supplemental reasons.



Trump knew ukraine was corrupt. Why did he give aid still? It certainly wasnt because he believed they wer not corrupt, because he knew they were. He gave it due to them being an ally and due to working with them. In otherwords, conditions went with that aid.



And thats ALSO true. In FACT that talking point was brought up in the very conversation with zelinsky.



Theres a difference between a true contradiction and what you WANT to be a contradiction.



Again, theres conditions to the aid to fight corruption and not missuse the aid. Thats also common sense by the way. I hope you see that.



So zelenski is not lying then when he said trump did not push him or blackmail him

Ok, good, so, whats the problem then?

unbelievable. You didn’t address any of the points that I made. Such as...

You falsely claiming trump didn’t trust the former president due to corruption. And when I pointed it out to you that he gave the former Ukraine president 200 million in military aid you said, it’s not that trump don’t care about corruption, he does, but Ukraine is our ally’s. You never correct yourself not matter how trivial it is.

you also didn’t address trumps conflicting statements about why trump withheld the aid form Ukraine as well as the pentagon releasing statements that contradicts trump statement about withholding aid due to corruption.

You keep talking about the aid was giving to the former president with conditions. Well I quoted what those conditions were..

The funds are intended to enhance Ukraine's

command and control, situational awareness systems, secure communications, military mobility, night vision and military medical treatment, a US defense official told CNN.

Your response was to quote an article that’s dealing with trump withholding aid with the current Ukrainian President. Which is unrelated to the article that I gave you.

It’s not about Zelensky lying it’s about Zelensky trying not to involved with the drama trump created. As I pointed out before, Ukraine is desperately in need of additional lethal assistance (which Zelensky may, but probably didn't, know was being held up at the request of Trump a week before this call and had been seeking a WH meeting with the two leaders, why not suck up a little bit?

All you keep doing is ignoring the overwhelming evidence that people are giving you and putting forth Chewbacca defense’s

 

[Subduction Zone]

unbelievable. You didn’t address any of the points that I made. Such as...

You falsely claiming trump didn’t trust the former president due to corruption. And when I pointed it out to you that he gave the former Ukraine president 200 million in military aid you said, it’s not that trump don’t care about corruption, he does, but Ukraine is our ally’s. You never correct yourself not matter how trivial it is.

you also didn’t address trumps conflicting statements about why trump withheld the aid form Ukraine as well as the pentagon releasing statements that contradicts trump statement about withholding aid due to corruption.

You keep talking about the aid was giving to the former president with conditions. Well I quoted what those conditions were..

The funds are intended to enhance Ukraine's

command and control, situational awareness systems, secure communications, military mobility, night vision and military medical treatment, a US defense official told CNN.

Your response was to quote an article that’s dealing with trump withholding aid with the current Ukrainian President. Which is unrelated to the article that I gave you.

It’s not about Zelensky lying it’s about Zelensky trying not to involved with the drama trump created. As I pointed out before, Ukraine is desperately in need of additional lethal assistance (which Zelensky may, but probably didn't, know was being held up at the request of Trump a week before this call and had been seeking a WH meeting with the two leaders, why not suck up a little bit?

All you keep doing is ignoring the overwhelming evidence that people are giving you and putting forth Chewbacca defense’s

When someone is embarrassingly wrong one cannot admit to the least of errors. It is sort of like being a creationist.

 

[Jollybear]

unbelievable. You didn’t address any of the points that I made. Such as...

You falsely claiming trump didn’t trust the former president due to corruption. And when I pointed it out to you that he gave the former Ukraine president 200 million in military aid you said, it’s not that trump don’t care about corruption, he does, but Ukraine is our ally’s. You never correct yourself not matter how trivial it is.

you also didn’t address trumps conflicting statements about why trump withheld the aid form Ukraine as well as the pentagon releasing statements that contradicts trump statement about withholding aid due to corruption.

You keep talking about the aid was giving to the former president with conditions. Well I quoted what those conditions were..

The funds are intended to enhance Ukraine's

command and control, situational awareness systems, secure communications, military mobility, night vision and military medical treatment, a US defense official told CNN.

Your response was to quote an article that’s dealing with trump withholding aid with the current Ukrainian President. Which is unrelated to the article that I gave you.

It’s not about Zelensky lying it’s about Zelensky trying not to involved with the drama trump created. As I pointed out before, Ukraine is desperately in need of additional lethal assistance (which Zelensky may, but probably didn't, know was being held up at the request of Trump a week before this call and had been seeking a WH meeting with the two leaders, why not suck up a little bit?

All you keep doing is ignoring the overwhelming evidence that people are giving you and putting forth Chewbacca defense’s

When someone is embarrassingly wrong one cannot admit to the least of errors. It is sort of like being a creationist.

If trump gets realected will that make you believe he is innocent or will it make you believe the republic is eroded and justice was not served?

 

[Prometheus85]

When someone is embarrassingly wrong one cannot admit to the least of errors. It is sort of like being a creationist.

Cranks will usually maintain their viewpoint despite — or perhaps because of — evidence to the contrary.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If trump gets realected will that make you believe he is innocent or will it make you believe the republic is eroded and justice was not served?

The evidence is rather clear that Trump committed impeachable offenses. Even if he is not found guilty it appears that most of America is waking up. He has lost huge swathes of the independent voter and there will not be enough hard core Republicans to reelect him. He won because he wisely concentrated on a few swing states. The only thing that could go wrong is that the Democrats could choose another Hilary . . . oh oh. God save us

 

[Subduction Zone]

Cranks will usually maintain their viewpoint despite — or perhaps because of — evidence to the contrary.

Hopefully all that Trump will have left for support are the cranks. Hmm, I wonder how Republicans as a whole feel about him now.

 

[Jollybear]

The evidence is rather clear that Trump committed impeachable offenses. Even if he is not found guilty it appears that most of America is waking up. He has lost huge swathes of the independent voter and there will not be enough hard core Republicans to reelect him. He won because he wisely concentrated on a few swing states. The only thing that could go wrong is that the Democrats could choose another Hilary . . . oh oh. God save us

Could you answer my question?

 

[Subduction Zone]

LOL, not directly related, but I found that I have a time machine somewhere. I searched for some info and found this article from next week:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/10/21/will-republicans-challenge-trump-on-impeachment

 

[Subduction Zone]

Could you answer my question?

The answer is there if you can read it.

 

[Jollybear]

The answer is there if you can read it.

No, you didnt answer it. You and pronethious are alot alike in that you dont know how to comprehend what you read.

Read my question again, because i wont ask it twice. Then answer it.

 

[Prometheus85]

If trump gets realected will that make you believe he is innocent or will it make you believe the republic is eroded and justice was not served?

It’s looking more likely by the day that President Trump will be impeached by the House for his dealings with Ukraine. Even if he’s not found guilty, the damage is already done. He basically won the election by a combined 150k votes in those swing states. Giving how unpopular he is and majority of Americans want him impeached, that could easily flip the other way.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAnAmeri...ce=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=comment_expand

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, you didnt answer it. You and pronethious are alot alike in that you dont know how to comprehend what you read.

Read my question again, because i wont ask it twice. Then answer it.

You are projecting your flaws upon others again. Simply admit that you did not understand the response.

And here is today's grammar tip (I am currently using my PC which does not have an autowrong function so any mistakes are my own). "A lot" is two words not one. "Alot" is not a word. If you have a spell checker it should have been underlined each time you typed it. "Allot" means to give or apportion to someone as a part of something.

 

[Jollybear]

It’s looking more likely by the day that President Trump will be impeached by the House for his dealings with Ukraine. Even if he’s not found guilty, the damage is already done. He basically won the election by a combined 150k votes in those swing states. Giving how unpopular he is and majority of Americans want him impeached, that could easily flip the other way.

Again, you did not answer my question. Just like sub did not answer my question.

Wer you two taught reading comprehention skills in school?

 

[Jollybear]

You are projecting your flaws upon others again. Simply admit that you did not understand the response.

And here is today's grammar tip (I am currently using my PC which does not have an autowrong function so any mistakes are my own). "A lot" is two words not one. "Alot" is not a word. If you have a spell checker it should have been underlined each time you typed it. "Allot" means to give or apportion to someone as a part of something.

Ok basically your unwilling to answer my actual question.

Ok, fine.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ok basically your unwilling to answer my actual question.

Ok, fine.

Perfectly willing and I was ready to help you to understand. If you cannot own up to your own failures you are in no position to make any demands of others.

 

[Prometheus85]

Again, you did not answer my question. Just like sub did not answer my question.

Wer you two taught reading comprehention skills in school?

We did answer question. You just don’t like the responses to it because your question was never intended to be honest. It was a question to defend your viewpoint on Donald Trump.

 

[Jollybear]

We did answer question. You just don’t like the responses to it because your question was never intended to be honest. It was a question to defend your viewpoint on Donald Trump.

No, your answer is not honest because it pretends to answer that which has nothing to do with my question.

But, ok, fine. You cant be forced to answer it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, your answer is not honest because it pretends to answer that which has nothing to do with my question.

But, ok, fine. You cant be forced to answer it.

When you ask an improper question you are in no position to complain about the answers that you were given.

 

[Jollybear]

When you ask an improper question you are in no position to complain about the answers that you were given.

Lol, wow......

If i ask is it rainy where your at, instead of answering with a yes its rainy or no its not rainy, you answer with the leaves are turning yellow, lol.

Seriously, thats the equivalence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lol, wow......

If i ask is it rainy where your at, instead of answering with a yes its rainy or no its not rainy, you answer with the leaves are turning yellow, lol.

Seriously, thats the equivalence.

Now, now, let's not make a lack of logical reasoning too obvious.

You could have admitted that you did not understand the answers. But then as pointed out your question was dishonest and you do not want that made too obvious.