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Donald Trump was the greatest president.

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
And the lovely Constitution has led to an authoritarian government as well. Sure, America is not like China (yet). Free range cattle, Americans are!
Humans have always developed a government in every instance, right? There has never been a sustained anarchist state (that I’m aware of). So I think the question that needs to be asked is why the existence of human society inevitably leads to an authoritarian state.
What is it, I wonder, that you are not free to do that you really, really want to do?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So you see the potential reelection of Trump as a constructive thing that will somehow eventually make America or the world a better place? If so, you support the same candidate as those wanting to harm America. Trump was Putin's choice, too.
And now Biden is Putins choice. Wanna support who Putin supports?
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
It would be nice if I didn't have to financially support and otherwise take part in a violent imperialistic empire.
I see.

So which nations are Americans currently fighting in (being violent)? Which parts of the world is this "imperialisitic empire" trying to force its hegemony on? And how much are you personally financially supporting for these sins?

Out of curiousity, do you think you should not have to "financially support" any part of the running of your nation? Would you be willing to explain what you'd support, and what you wouldn't?
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
There is a lot of thought put into anarcho-capitalist theory which hypothesizes on how exactly society would work in absence of a state. Most people don’t think anarchocapitalism is valid which is why they aren’t ancaps. It isn’t a lawless society, the free market is the governing force. I don’t think such a system is possible unless humans are generally moral, so perhaps we’ll always be under a state!

Then you have the false black vs white paradigm in a world of grey .. .. like it has to be one extreme or the other .. like .. we didn't say "No Gov't" .. just Limited Gov't
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I am an anarchist. I think statism is the most vile thing to grace this planet, and I think statists have Stockholm syndrome in relation to their government. :);):(
I wish people didn’t take government seriously. If we all laughed at the judges funny outfits instead of standing to attention for them, I think this world would be better for it.
American statists take the office of presidency most seriously. The president is their leader. That is why I think Donald Trump is the greatest president. He made a complete mockery of the office. He was a total buffoon! I would turn on the news and be laughing so hard when his petty tweets would be broadcasted. He made a joke of the highest elected position in America. Generally, I saw statists embarrassed by this man. My hope is that he turns people away from statism
I hope he wins in 2024. One, it makes the news a lot more entertaining. Two, I hope he keeps desecrating the sacred office of the presidency in the eyes of statists. #Trump2024 ! #trolling?
Do you think Donald Trump is sort of a John Galt figure?
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
I see.

So which nations are Americans currently fighting in (being violent)? Which parts of the world is this "imperialisitic empire" trying to force its hegemony on? And how much are you personally financially supporting for these sins?

Out of curiousity, do you think you should not have to "financially support" any part of the running of your nation? Would you be willing to explain what you'd support, and what you wouldn't?

You do realize America has some 800 military bases, in 80+ countries, straddling the globe?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
So you see the potential reelection of Trump as a constructive thing that will somehow eventually make America or the world a better place? If so, you support the same candidate as those wanting to harm America. Trump was Putin's choice, too.
"Trump was Putin's choice, too."

And now Biden is Putin's choice.

Putin says Russia prefers Biden to Trump but criticizes current US policy



Putin Says Russia Prefers Biden Over Trump in U.S. Election



Putin says he prefers 'more predictable' Biden over Trump

 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
"Trump was Putin's choice, too."

And now Biden is Putin's choice.

Putin says Russia prefers Biden to Trump but criticizes current US policy



Putin Says Russia Prefers Biden Over Trump in U.S. Election



Putin says he prefers 'more predictable' Biden over Trump

I don't think one can discern Putin's preference
based upon whom Putin says he prefers.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Just pointing out that Putin wanted Trump last time but now prefers Biden.
Putin still wants Trump to be president. You ought to know better than to trust his words. He also denied killing Prigozhin and Navalny. Do you believe that, too?

You agree that "Putin wanted Trump last time." Why do you think you know that? Putin never publicly endorsed Trump. You know it based on events, not words. Putin understands that he's poison to non-Republican Americans and that his endorsement of Trump hurts Trump. This is undoubtedly why he DID come out and support a candidate in 2024, and that that candidate was Biden.

Regarding predictability, both Biden and Trump are very predictable, which is why Putin would have a clear preference for Trump. Biden will predictably continue to denounce Putin, impose sanctions on him, and support Ukraine if the pro-Putin Republicans in Congress can be overcome. Biden will continue to serve as a beacon and exemplary leader of the free world.

And predictably, Trump would do the opposite. He would continue to praise Putin and other dictators, welcome Putin to invade NATO countries and otherwise oppose NATO. Trump would oppose aid to the Ukraine and continue to shame America on the world stage.

Which of these men do you think Putin supports - the one he said he supported but who opposes him, or the one that would be his agent in the White House and provide him with state secrets?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It would be nice if I didn't have to financially support and otherwise take part in a violent imperialistic empire.
And you don't think Trump is like that-- seriously? Are you aware of General Milley's concerns about Trump near the end of his tenure as president? Also, do you remember when Trump gave the OK to have the MOAB dropped? Also his support of Putin and Orban?
 
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