Doomposting

[Revoltingest]

I see many highly partisan threads about news of this
or that person doing something heinous, & demonizing
an entire group with a worst case inference about them.
Fellows join to dogpile on the group, extoling their own
virtues, & decrying the evil of the other. This shuts down
balance, tolerance, equanimity, & reason.


Please, people....don't cheerlead each other into
hatred of the other team, & ignore sins of your own.

 

[Heyo]

I see many highly partisan threads about news of this
or that person doing something heinous, & demonizing
an entire group with a worst case inference about them.
Fellows join to dogpile on the group, extoling their own
virtues, & decrying the evil of the other. This shuts down
balance, tolerance, equanimity, & reason.


Please, people....don't cheerlead each other into
hatred of the other team, & ignore sins of your own.

It's easy to demonize "the other team" if there is no "my team".

 

[Revoltingest]

It's easy to demonize "the other team" if there is no "my team".

Everyone has a team...whether or not they know or admit it.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Please, people....don't cheerlead each other into
hatred of the other team, & ignore sins of your own.

Hopefully that includes hatred of Russians—the average people, not Putin and his cronies—and Russia in general far beyond Putin. I have seen quite a bit of that too.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hopefully that includes hatred of Russians—the average people, not Putin and his cronies—and Russia in general far beyond Putin. I have seen quite a bit of that too.

It includes everything where one small event is made writ large.
But I see what you're up to....
You've repeatedly defended Russia by claiming USA is equally
bad. Russia's invasion of Ukraine, with the support of the Russian
Orthodox Church & a large segment of the populace is different.
Feel free to take such apologetics back to the other thread, &
not pollute this one. Don't derail my theme in this thread, bub.

 

[Debater Slayer]

It includes everything where one small event is made writ large.
But I see what you're up to....
You've repeatedly defended Russia by claiming USA is equally
bad. Russia's invasion of Ukraine, with the support of the Russian
Orthodox Church & a large segment of the populace is different.
Feel free to take such apologetics back to the other thread, &
not pollute this one. Don't derail my theme in this thread, bub.

I have defended my belief that no country and a majority of its people should be demonized wholesale due to the actions of a despotic regime. I stand by that. Calling this "apologetics" entirely misses the point, and you still haven't given a reliable source about this supposed support for the war by a "large segment of the populace"... who can't even voice opposition to Putin safely.

I think my point is quite relevant to this thread. If you argue against demonization and hatred of the "other team," this should apply consistently.

 

[Audie]

There were commies / russians
that were out to get America, post-
war Japan to threaten commercial
supremacy and now China is such a
boogey-man.

 

[PureX]

I see many highly partisan threads about news of this
or that person doing something heinous, & demonizing
an entire group with a worst case inference about them.
Fellows join to dogpile on the group, extoling their own
virtues, & decrying the evil of the other. This shuts down
balance, tolerance, equanimity, & reason.


Please, people....don't cheerlead each other into
hatred of the other team, & ignore sins of your own.

Sure, as soon as you stop excusing the sins of that 'other team' just because we're all guilty of something, some time or other.

 

[Revoltingest]

I have defended my belief that no country and a majority of its people should be demonized...

Yes, all you've said before in that other thread.
If you want to continue it, do so there.
Don't pollute this thread with more Russian apologetics.

Perhaps it's a distraction so as to defend this thread?
GOP Rep. Eric Burlison Invokes Holocaust over TV Channel Being Dropped from DirecTV

 

[Revoltingest]

Sure, as soon as you stop excusing the sins of that 'other team' just because we're all guilty of something, some time or other.

Are you here to advocate for doomposting?

 

[Audie]

I have defended my belief that no country and a majority of its people should be demonized wholesale due to the actions of a despotic regime. I stand by that. Calling this "apologetics" entirely misses the point, and you still haven't given a reliable source about this supposed support for the war by a "large segment of the populace"... who can't even voice opposition to Putin safely.

I think my point is quite relevant to this thread. If you argue against demonization and hatred of the "other team," this should apply consistently.

I believe you are mistaken about public
support for the war on Ukraine.

I know a number of Koreans. And have
the highest regard for them, for korea.

North Korea is an enemy to humanity.

I believe you may misunderestimate the
Intelligence of those who state things in
such terms.

There can't be many who would not readily
agree its the govt, not the people as individuals.

 

[Revoltingest]

There were commies / russians
that were out to get America, post-
war Japan to threaten commercial
supremacy and now China is such a
boogey-man.

The threats posed by China should be supported
by actual policies & actions...not isolated statements
by individuals.
Of course, the extent of its threat, & whether it is or
isn't a threat will be argued over ad infinitum. I'm not
addressing that in this thread.

 

[Audie]

Are you here to advocate for doomposting?

Just being a wild haired anti capitalist.
The wild hair is to look like a philosopher.

 

[Audie]

The threats posed by China should be supported
by actual policies & actions...not isolated statements
by individuals.
Of course, the extent of its threat, & whether it is or
isn't a threat will be argued over ad infinitum. I'm not
addressing that in this thread.

Me too also not either.

 

[Revoltingest]

Me too also not either.

What chance is their that you could replace Xi
as top banana in China? I could see relations
improving greatly with Ameristan.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Yes, all you've said before in that other thread.
If you want to continue it, do so there.
Don't pollute this thread with more Russian apologetics.

Mislabeling it as "Russian apologetics" doesn't help the whole case for listening to the "other team," you know. I don't expect agreement, but I expect understanding and accurate representation of what I'm saying. I do my best to reciprocate.

Perhaps it's a distraction so as to defend this thread?
GOP Rep. Eric Burlison Invokes Holocaust over TV Channel Being Dropped from DirecTV

What's there to defend? It's about one House member and problems within the GOP's current direction.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I believe you are mistaken about public
support for the war on Ukraine.

I know a number of Koreans. And have
the highest regard for them, for korea.

North Korea is an enemy to humanity.

I believe you may misunderestimate the
Intelligence of those who state things in
such terms.

There can't be many who would not readily
agree its the govt, not the people as individuals.

I have seen posts on this very forum advocating for nuking Russia (as a first strike, not even in retaliation), saying that Russian refugees who escaped mobilization should be treated differently from other refugees, and saying Russian people "deserve[d] to suffer." So the rhetoric I have in mind was quite specific and explicit in its being aimed at individuals rather than just the government.

 

[Revoltingest]

Mislabeling it as "Russian apologetics"...

I call it as I see it, ie, your equating Russia's &
USA's actions. Apologetics is the best explanation.

 

[Revoltingest]

I have seen posts on this very forum advocating for nuking Russia (as a first strike...

Why not start your own thread about prejudice
towards Russia, & actually quote the posts that
you claim exist?
Are you going to follow me around RF with your
continual defense of Russia? I'll show you how
to start threads, if you need help.

I really tried to make the OP appear politically
neutral. It applies to both the left & the right.
Big fail, eh.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I call it as I see it, ie, your equating Russia's &
USA's actions. Apologetics is the best explanation.

I regard them as perfectly comparable. That's a hill I'm willing to die on.