Doomposting

[Nakosis]

I see many highly partisan threads about news of this
or that person doing something heinous, & demonizing
an entire group with a worst case inference about them.
Fellows join to dogpile on the group, extoling their own
virtues, & decrying the evil of the other. This shuts down
balance, tolerance, equanimity, & reason.


Please, people....don't cheerlead each other into
hatred of the other team, & ignore sins of your own.

Cheer leading in politics is an ugly business.

 

[Revoltingest]

The point you don't seem to be grasping here is that it doesn't matter what an accuser is guilty of. What matters is that the accusation is accurate.

What you don't seem to be grasping is that accruacy
isn't the issue...it's the purpose & effect of doomposting,
ie, to demonize the other side.
You could post all sorts of true things about blacks
that are negative, & designed to demonize them.
Does factuality make it cromulent? No.

 

[Revoltingest]

What if it's true?????

*yikes*

That's the common excuse.

My father would do that. He'd run people down,
& make them feel terrible. When challenged, he'd
always respond, "Well it's true.". Cruel people
seldom realize the wrongness of what they do.
Self righteousness justifies all, eh.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

What you don't seem to be grasping is that accruacy isn't the issue...it's the purpose & effect of doomposting, ie, to demonize the other side.

Does that include persistently painting socialism as 100% equal to communism and only pulling illustrations of specific hardships under communism to broad-brush demonize the entire left-wing theory?

 

[Revoltingest]

What people post here is often reflective of what they read in the news. For example, we see a lot of posts about George Santos lately, since he's been in the news a lot....

Aye, his outrageous frauds deserves its own threads.
Thus it's not doomposting per se, but it creeps in that
direction when some say this characterizes the party.

 

[Revoltingest]

Rand Paul. Now what was the bet and how much do you owe me?

He's a Republican, not a Libertarian.
(Watch for that capital "L", which refers to our party,
not just anyone who is philosophically libertarian.)
So I owe you a spanking.
Now....drop those drawers!

 

[Revoltingest]

I think you may have noticed that this kind of logic rarely gets...

Be specific about what "logic" you refer too.
I'm not addressing loosie goosie impressions.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Be specific about what "logic" you refer too.
I'm not addressing loosie goosie impressions.

The logic of talking about two or more sides of a disagreement as if they were equal or similar when there are fundamental differences that render the beliefs and actions of one or more of them demonstrably more harmful than the other or others.

 

[Revoltingest]

I also think it's false equivalence to compare the wrong done by the Democratic and Republican party.

Yes, Democrats generally oppose any comparison
with Republicans. Their sanctimonious superiority
would be deflated if they admitted to any corruption,
incompetence, hypocrisy, war mongering, & other
such shortcomings. So all comparisons are met
with the knee jerk "False equivalancey!" in an
attempt to shut down criticism.

 

[Revoltingest]

There's false equivalence right....

You guys need need a new line....something
you actually understand & use correctly.
And I see what you're doing....just trying to
steer the thread away from the OP's theme.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Yes, Democrats generally oppose any comparison
with Republicans. Their sanctimonious superiority
would be deflated if they admitted to any corruption,
incompetence, hypocrisy, war mongering, & other
such shortcomings. So all comparisons are met
with the knee jerk "False equivalancey!" in an
attempt to shut down criticism.

Because it is false equivalence. They don't have to be perfect, they just have to be not as bad as the Republicans.

They aren't.

And, frankly, I think that's as objective a statement as can possibly be made about anything.

Therefore, to equate the two simply because both have flaws is an example of false equivalence. It is also dishonest, since there are plenty of supporters of the democrats who acknowledge their faults but still consider them lesser than the faults of the other side.

Your analysis ignores this nuance.

 

[Revoltingest]

Does that include persistently painting socialism as...

Addressing the effects of socialism in historical
application isn't the problem I broached in the OP.
You should read it, understand it, & consider the
problem of posting thread after thread designed
to demonize an entire political wing based upon
a single individual politician.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

It is also dishonest, since there are plenty of supporters of the democrats who acknowledge their faults but still consider them lesser than the faults of the other side.

Exactly this. For example despite valid arguments against the common false equivalencies regarding mishandled classified documents from both Biden and Trump, I have still yet to see one Democrat or Left-leaning individual who has not said "Yeah, investigate it, and if Joe did something illegal, then lock him up."

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Addressing the effects of socialism in historical application isn't the problem I broached in the OP.

No, but "doomposting" is directly applicable to how you have handled that discussion. So I see; it's very much a case of "Acceptable for me, but not for thee" here.

You should read it, understand it, & consider the problem of posting thread after thread designed to demonize an entire political wing based upon a single individual politician.

In the interest of not assuming who you're talking about, which one single politician would that be? Trump? DeSantis? Abbot? Green? Boebert? Lindow? Gaetz? Trump Jr.?

 

[Revoltingest]

The logic of talking about two or more sides of a disagreement as if they were equal....

"Equal" is very often the mistaken inference that
liberals have when they experience criticism applying
to both them & conservatives.
You're going by your impression, rather than responding
to a particular post. Tis criticism without substance.

Have you anything at all to say
about the subject of the OP?
Or just unrelated complaints?

 

[Debater Slayer]

"Equal" is very often the mistaken inference that
liberals have when they experience criticism applying
to both them & conservatives.
You're going by your impression, rather than responding
to a particular post. Tis criticism without substance.

I said "equal or similar," but you snipped the rest of my post.

 

[Revoltingest]

Because it is false equivalence.

You really need a new line.
That one is tired...over-used by liberals,
especially in this thread. You guys don't
even know what it means. It's about
claims of equality, not about shared sins.

 

[Revoltingest]

No, but "doomposting" is directly applicable to how you have handled that discussion.

Typical...you avoid the subject of the OP
by making it about the poster, not the issue.
Your tu quoque argument fails.

 

[Revoltingest]

I said "equal or similar," but you snipped the rest of my post.

Mere quibbling.
You're still trying to evade criticism of the left
over-using the "False equivalency!" chant.
Geeze Louise....you lefties all repeat each
other. Let's see some actual consideration
of the OP, & some original thought, not
just parroting each other.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Mere quibbling.
You're still trying to evade criticism of the left
over-using the "False equivalency!" chant.
Geeze Louise....you lefties all repeat each
other. Let's see some actual consideration
of the OP, & some original thought.

Have you considered that "false equivalence" may indeed accurately describe the OP?