Doomposting

[Revoltingest]

My reasoning is that one side, the GOP, is indeed far worse than the Democratic Party....

And thus you appear to feel justified in opposing any
criticism of liberals demonizing conservatives. It appears
that this is why you immediately made the thread about
Russia vs USA...your pet issue. And then you chimed in
with other liberals to make it about Democrats being so
superior to Republicans, that any comparison or mention
of shared faults is shouted down with the brainless chant
of "False equivalency".
Such unity of thought makes it appear to be a tactic to
quell criticism of liberal intolerance & fomenting of hostility.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

You don't directly respond to my posts about issues & policies.

In fact I did, once upon a time. I provided you with direct examples of the points I was making contrary to yours, and you've persistently waved them away as excuses. You've even decried a fact that has many noted sources of declassified CIA documents and operations as "hyperbole".

As with other lefties, there is no tolerance of criticism...no acknowledgement of having some faults in common...no self criticism.

Demonstrably false and hypocritical in that is, again, exactly what you are doing here. You're above criticism, you are intolerant of it, because it's not about you and your politics, it's about us. We shouldn't do these things and we should have introspection but it's perfectly okay if you don't.

"Faults in common". I won't bother to ask for an example or hold my breath for one, but I will say that there is no "fault in common" comparing Democratic restrictions to actual and literal fascism and no this is not a hyperbolic statement, look at what is happening in Florida. That is your absolute favorite word, a false equivalency. Trying to equate murder to petty theft because they're both crimes. (That's an analogy).

 

[Revoltingest]

Sometimes this is exactly the case. Look at Republican attempts to overturn same-sex marriage and tell me whether there's any way for a government official to agree with that without being wrong and complicit in harming millions of people.

I notice that you'll list things you dislike about
Republicans, but you're rather silent on faults
that Democrats have...and also quite unaware
of them.

 

[John53]

I keep reading the thread title as Decomposting. On reading the thread I think that would have been more appropriate.

 

[Revoltingest]

And then four pages in, you're accusing "other lefties" of "blind tribal unity in sanctimony."

Because this is the tactic that you & yours
immediately & continually employed.
Again...you've entirely ignored the theme of
the OP, which is about starting partisan threads
to demonize the other side. My OP was neutral,
but you & your ilk immediately made it otherwise.
So it's pure hypocrisy to accuse me of what you
just did.

 

[Revoltingest]

In fact I did, once upon a time. I provided you with direct examples of the points I was making contrary to yours, and you've persistently waved them away as excuses. You've even decried a fact that has many noted sources of declassified CIA documents and operations as "hyperbole".

I notice that you didn't provide any quote....just
your own inferences. How convenient.

Demonstrably false and hypocritical...

You aren't one to call anyone else hypocritical.

 

[Revoltingest]

I keep reading the thread title as Decomposting. On reading the thread I think that would have been more appropriate.

I keep seeing "decomposing".
"Decomposting"...is that a reversal of composting?
Would my rotting veggies become fresh again?

 

[Debater Slayer]

And thus you appear to feel justified in opposing any
criticism of liberals demonizing conservatives.

Any? No, I see some valid criticism of liberals. A false equivalence that misses the nuance of why liberal politics aren't remotely as damaging as the GOP's agenda? I'll oppose that every time I see it.

It appears
that this is why you immediately made the thread about
Russia vs USA...your pet issue.

We've only talked about it in any considerable detail twice so far. If that's enough for it to earn the "pet issue" designation, does that also apply to "socialism and communism = USSR, Khmer Rouge, North Korea, and Cuba"?

And then you chimed in
with other liberals to make it about Democrats being so
superior to Republicans, that any comparison or mention
of shared faults is shouted down with the brainless chant
of "False equivalency".
Such unity of thought makes it appear to be a tactic to
quell criticism of liberal intolerance & fomenting of hostility.

That Democratic agendas are far less harmful than their Republican counterparts is part and parcel of this thread's subject. A Ferrari might have some shared faults with a used Lada. That doesn't mean a comparison of the "shared faults" necessarily has any value or practical use, at least not when the vast differences are much more pronounced and relevant to current issues.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

I notice that you didn't provide any quote....just your own inferences. How convenient.

At request

Geeze Louise....rather hyperbolic there, fella.

This was in reply to Stevicus saying "The US government has been doing that kind of thing [overthrowing governments] all over the world, on every continent except Antarctica."

You aren't one to call anyone else hypocritical.

And now you; elaborate on just how I am hypocritical.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I notice that you'll list things you dislike about
Republicans, but you're rather silent on faults
that Democrats have...and also quite unaware
of them.

Do you want me to jot down a list of Democrats' faults in this thread as a token gesture of "balance"? I've talked about Democrats' faults before. I just see no occasion to do so here.

Because this is the tactic that you & yours
immediately & continually employed.
Again...you've entirely ignored the theme of
the OP, which is about starting partisan threads
to demonize the other side. My OP was neutral,
but you & your ilk immediately made it otherwise.
So it's pure hypocrisy to accuse me of what you
just did.

I sense too much hostility in the above post, so I'll withdraw from this thread because I find it to have run its course for me in terms of productivity for the time being. I suggest taking a timeout as well instead of posting while tempers are flaring.

 

[Watchmen]

Looks like doomposting is alive and well in a thread passionately calling us to be better people and NOT doompost.

 

[Revoltingest]

Any? No, I see some valid criticism of liberals. A false equivalence that misses the nuance of why liberal politics aren't remotely as damaging as the GOP's agenda? I'll oppose that every time I see it.

So you're still sticking the false claim that I said
they're equivalent, eh.
That's a devious tactic you're using there.

We've only talked about it in any considerable detail twice so far. If that's enough for it to earn the "pet issue" designation, does that also apply to "socialism and communism = USSR, Khmer Rouge, North Korea, and Cuba"?

Your question isn't clear.
But let's leave your defense of socialism, &
attacks on capitalism for another thread.

That Democratic agendas are far less harmful than their Republican counterparts is part and parcel of this thread's subject. A Ferrari might have some shared faults with a used Lada. That doesn't mean a comparison of the "shared faults" necessarily has any value or practical use, at least not when the vast differences are much more pronounced and relevant to current issues.

I've not actually said whose agendas are more harmful.
That would vary with time, & with which agenda.
On top of that, you & I have very different values, so
to suggest that you have The Truth on a matter that's
subjective is bogus.
Essentially, it appears that you're arguing that it's good
to demonize the right because you see them as evil.
That's a very narrow minded & sanctimonious view.
It runs counter to RF's mission of fostering civil discourse
about issues. Instead, your posts serve to enhance
hostilities...as do some from the other liberals in this thread.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Essentially, it appears that you're arguing that it's good
to demonize the right because you see them as evil.

This is also an inaccurate rephrasing of my position. I'm saying it's good to call out harmful agendas like the GOP's and unproductive to imply that opposing agendas are anywhere as damaging. I didn't mention conservative or liberal individuals, nor did I even remotely make the point that it's "good to demonize the right."

It's a bit difficult to have a useful discussion when I find myself having to clarify my actual stance every several posts.

 

[Revoltingest]

Do you want me to jot down a list of Democrats' faults in this thread as a token gesture of "balance"? I've talked about Democrats' faults before. I just see no occasion to do so here.

That rings hollow, given your opposition to
any comparison of Dem vs Pub faults.

I sense too much hostility in the above post, so I'll withdraw from this thread because I find it to have run its course for me in terms of productivity for the time being. I suggest taking a timeout as well instead of posting while tempers are flaring.

Tempers? I'm having a great time.
It's aerobic posting.....the OP is long dead,
so at this point it's just jousting with illiberal liberals
in a tables-ladders-&-chairs wrestling match.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's a bit difficult to have a useful discussion when I find myself having to clarify my actual stance every several posts.

Tell me about it.
That's how it usually is for me on RF.

 

[John53]

I keep seeing "decomposing".
"Decomposting"...is that a reversal of composting?
Would my rotting veggies become fresh again?

I make my compost out of cow manure so it's the process of producing fresh BS

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

I've not actually said whose agendas are more harmful.

Touching on this; It's more what you haven't said. Answer me this, Rev; would you met with the same disdain and scorn that you do any mention of socialism as a positive a statement in blatant and open support of actual fascism?

 

[Revoltingest]

I make my compost out of cow manure so it's the process of producing fresh BS

I've no cows.
So I compost veggies mostly.
And a wee bit'o leaves, paper, & misc foods.

 

[Revoltingest]

Touching on this; It's more what you haven't said.

Oh, you can read anything your heart desires into that void.
More could be said, but so many of you are posting to me
that I'm practicing economy of reading & response.
If ever you become interesting, you'll get more of my time.

 

[Wu Wei]

I see many highly partisan threads about news of this
or that person doing something heinous, & demonizing
an entire group with a worst case inference about them.
Fellows join to dogpile on the group, extoling their own
virtues, & decrying the evil of the other. This shuts down
balance, tolerance, equanimity, & reason.


Please, people....don't cheerlead each other into
hatred of the other team, & ignore sins of your own.

I'm not even going to parody this, just because you posted it....because I fully agree