Double Minded Atheist

[SkepticThinker]

A theistic position does not require 'evidence'. That's why it is a position as opposed to a necessary argument. That is also why in the religious usage, 'belief', does not indicate the evidence the person may or may not have, for their theism. The same word is used to indicate the position, thusly, without differentiating between why the person has the adherence.

It does to me. As does any other position that asserts the existence of a thing.

 

[g2perk]

You're not fond of answering questions, are you?

I do but when it come to Christ the answers that I am given are the true answers. I the christian community. I have to put things another way here.

 

[Desert Snake]

It does to me. As does any other position that asserts the existence of a thing.

That is irrelevant to how the words are logically used.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That is irrelevant to how the words are logically used.

Okay then. Whatever.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I do but when it come to Christ the answers that I am given are the true answers. I the christian community. I have to put things another way here.

I'm sorry but those are empty claims to me. You say you have the true answers. Okay. It doesn't appear that you do to me and we have no way of verifying that, apparently. You just say you know.

 

[g2perk]

I'm sorry but those are empty claims to me. You say you have the true answers. Okay. It doesn't appear that you do to me and we have no way of verifying that, apparently. You just say you know.

We will agree to disagree on this one

 

[TruthEnder]

However, there are those atheists like myself who lack a belief either way.

How in the world does that work?

I have made peace with the fact that I do not know either way.

You lack a belief either way. You don't know either way. Make peace with the fact that you're not an atheist.

 

[McBell]

How in the world does that work?

I do not believe that god exists.
I do not believe that god does not exist.
I do not know either way.

You lack a belief either way.

Correct

You don't know either way.

Correct

Make peace with the fact that you're not an atheist.

What, in your little fantasy world, am I?

 

[TruthEnder]

I do not believe that god exists.
I do not believe that god does not exist.
I do not know either way.

You're not willing to commit to the one proposition that atheism makes, namely that "God is non-existent."

What, in your little fantasy world, am I?

Non-committal.

 

[TruthEnder]

• Agnosticism
  • A term coined by T.H. Huxley to express a position of suspended belief. Huxley used the term to apply to any proposition for which the evidence was insufficient for belief. It is usually, however, applied principally to suspension of belief with respect to God.
  • Protagoras, holding that with respect to the gods he has no way of knowing that they exist or do not exist, would exemplify the ordinary sense of the term, agnosticism.
  • Also, Spencer, who relates the term to the Unknowable, and Stephen who helped to popularize the term.

 

[ukok102nak]

You're not fond of answering questions, are you?

~:> perhaps we could answer that
for your amusement
if someone who is not believing unto any gods but find something which is appropriate to its belief
that is somehow it came
unto some words of those people who believe in god
and
the same thing happened unto those people who believed in god to find the truth from those people who never believed in gods
are they committing any crimes
(they say if anyone commits a crime then its considered to be a sin if we are wrong about this then
kindly correct us if we are wrong accordinv to your own belief only)
as we have mentioned
are they committing any crimes
becaused it does not fit unto some people who never come unto that understanding

but first thing first
would you answer this question first
what is the diffirence between your thoughts and to the one who is not a liar


:ty:



godbless
unto all always

 

[Acim]

It does to me. As does any other position that asserts the existence of a thing.

Where's your objective evidence for existence of a physical world?

Me, I have faith in such a world, and is how I justify its existence, knowing objective evidence is literally not possible to be provided.

 

[paarsurrey]

Double Minded Atheist

It should have been "Double minded Atheism", as it generates from confusion called doubt, and on no rational and reasonable basis. Right? Please
Regards

 

[TruthEnder]

It does to me. As does any other position that asserts the existence of a thing.

So you hold no position on whether the statement "God exists" is either true or false? I guess the real question is what's stopping you?

 

[McBell]

You're not willing to commit to the one proposition that atheism makes, namely that "God is non-existent."

Atheism is lack of belief in a deity.
Some atheists take a step further and actively disbelieve in a god.
However, the lack of belief is all that is required to be an atheist.

Non-committal.

Atheist is easier to spell and much shorter.
So I will be sticking with atheist.

 

[McBell]

I guess the real question is what's stopping you?

Lack of convincing evidence.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That is irrelevant to how the words are logically used.

The theistic position requires evidence for me to believe in it. You can claim faith all day long, but that doesn't mean much to me.

 

[SkepticThinker]

• Agnosticism
  • A term coined by T.H. Huxley to express a position of suspended belief. Huxley used the term to apply to any proposition for which the evidence was insufficient for belief. It is usually, however, applied principally to suspension of belief with respect to God.
  • Protagoras, holding that with respect to the gods he has no way of knowing that they exist or do not exist, would exemplify the ordinary sense of the term, agnosticism.
  • Also, Spencer, who relates the term to the Unknowable, and Stephen who helped to popularize the term.

Many people are agnostic atheists.

 

[SkepticThinker]

We will agree to disagree on this one

Indeed. It takes more than empty claims to convince me that a god exists.

You say the same thing as millions of other people do about the thousands of different gods they worship. Apparently unless I just take your word for it that you're right about the god you believe in, there's no actual way of determining which, if any, are real. Faith doesn't help me.

 

[JustWondering]

What would it take to come back to the faith?

Undeniable evidence. Blindly excepting extraordinary claims without adequate supporting evidence is no longer a possibility for me.