And we have come to KNOW [sic] you. Needless to say, there is a difference of opinion.
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Doubt regarding Atheism or Theism
- Thread starter sandandfoam
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Yes, we agree on that part of the equation. If Atheists are right, they will never know as will Christians never know they are wrong.
The other side of the coin is, If an Atheist is wrong about this, there will be hell to pay. As for myself, it will be bitter sweet if I am right. I am growing attached to you Atheists. :yes:
Faith in God is uplifting. I can't imagine how depressing it must be to think all there is to your life is a few years here on earth.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
This is exactly the reason so many Christians stay Christian. They don't understand, and so are afraid of the opposing point of view. There's nothing depressing about enjoying the life that we're currently experiencing. It's actually quite fun and exciting. It's like someone on drugs not coming off of them because life is too dull and boring without them. Life is what you make of it.
(And before I get slaughtered for the comment, I'm not saying Christians are just like drug addicts, just that there is at least one small similarity there in some cases like Rick's)
I'm not.
Even people who are certain can benefit from debate. They can inform their position, they can potentially have their opinion swayed (even if they disregard the possibility), and they can gain insight into another point of view. All of these things are positive.
It's kind of like looking at the single diamond you own, knowing that you don't have a garage full of diamonds at home: you cherish and appreciate the one precious jewel you have.
Fluffy
A fool
Christians will know they are wrong if the Vikings were right.Reverend Rick said:
I agree that atheists will never know that they are right. However, your preference for knowledge is countered by the atheists preference for uncertainty. Do you look to your neighbour who is enjoying his vanilla ice cream and say "My golly gosh! What a depressing existence you must be having! Here have some of my chocolate sauce on your dessert, the way its meant to be enjoyed"?
Yes, let's cherish the rotting, constantly dying and decaying bio-matter that we so indentify ourSelves with. A diamond lasts forever, man, YOU and I won't. I think this sort of sentiment is a form of death, you'll only be only this stinking world for 90 yrs max, if you're lucky, and you can't take that diamond with you when you die. There is no justice or beauty in that.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
What? There is plenty of beauty in this life. It's unfortunate that you can't see it. I plan to take full advantage of it. You just said yourself that you can't take that diamond with you when you die. You're exactly right, and that's what we're saying. You can't take life with you after you die, so enjoy it now while you can.
Meh... I prefer to make the best of the situation, and from where I sit, this "rotting, constantly dying and decaying bio-matter" is all I've got, except for whatever legacy I leave behind with other "rotting, constantly dying and decaying bio-matter".
An eternal soul sounds quite nice, but I can't reasonably believe that such a thing exists. So, like the song says, if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with. I'd prefer to appreciate what I have than grumble about how it's so much worse than something I could never have anyway.
Yes, the meal will end. In the meantime, though, I like the food and the decor, and I don't know of any all-you-can-eat buffets in my town anyhow.
texan1
Active Member
Now Reverend Rick, stop assuming you are the only joyful person around here! My life is so full of love and beauty and I cherish every minute of it. Life is precious. I lean towards atheism, but I'm happy letting the mystery be (though it is fun to debate and discuss with all of you guys!)
Neither cynical nor an attack, just simple honesty. Illusions exist. "Right" and "wrong" exist. "I" exist.
Yes. I'm certain you're wasting bandwidth with childish word games.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Allow me to add a little twist to Pascal's wager for those of you who seem keen to present it all the time.
Using the exact same logic, let's say I claim to be god and that I will toss you into hell for not worshiping me.
Will you dismiss my claims as nonsense and risk burning in hell, or worship me just in case I'm right? Hey, even if I'm wrong you won't know the difference when you're dead, right? So get to bowing, kids.
Using the exact same logic, let's say I claim to be god and that I will toss you into hell for not worshiping me.
Will you dismiss my claims as nonsense and risk burning in hell, or worship me just in case I'm right? Hey, even if I'm wrong you won't know the difference when you're dead, right? So get to bowing, kids.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
:bow::bow::bow:
whereismynotecard
Treasure Hunter
Well... At least I don't have to worry about pleasing god... I can be the biggest jerk, and I know that there will be no hell for me. Just because I don't believe in god doesn't mean I am depressed... If you stay positive, no matter what your religous beliefs, you can refrain from being depressed.
Frubals my friend.
I hope being a jerk won't keep me from going to heaven. :angel2: