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Dr Adnan Ibrahim on Emotional Atheism

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Not it's reasonable comparison.

because odds are exist in everything .
Personal inclinations are entirely diverse from speculations about how things happen, and even more different from actual researched, falsifiable scientific findings.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Personal inclinations are entirely diverse from speculations about how things happen, and even more different from actual researched, falsifiable scientific findings.
odd is odd , whatever the field.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
lol
Hell no, It's not an insult.
I find you English is complex , some others too.
It's not your fault it's mine :)
I know you did not mean anything. I am much too fond of certain flourishes. That often comes back to bite me.

Too bad I find that so appealling anyway... :)
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
No, Godobeyer. Science has a method. For it to be science at all it has to rise above the boundaries of aesthetical acceptability.
I am talking about personal opinion when become against commun opinion. (being rare)

I find it odd that someone atheist believe in God , or theist believe in evolution without creation or someone want to marry dog , or PC ...etc
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
No, Godobeyer. Science has a method. For it to be science at all it has to rise above the boundaries of aesthetical acceptability.
That's the truly weird part of all this, Luis. Science is almost a universal language that is shared by all races, ethnicity, religions and political persuasions. Normally its one of the few areas people can agree on because they can check ideas and claims out for themselves.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I am talking about personal opinion when become against commun opinion. (being rare)

I find it odd that someone atheist believe in God , or theist believe in evolution without creation or someone want to marry dog , or PC ...etc
It would be odd if an atheist believed in god. I'd say the person is either not too bright or terribly conflicted.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I am talking about personal opinion when become against commun opinion. (being rare)
Sure. But science is not a matter of opinion. If it were, it would not be science.
I find it odd that someone atheist believe in God
So do I. When or where did that happen? It is at least superficially a direct contradiction.
, or theist believe in evolution without creation or someone want to marry dog , or PC ...etc
There is nothing in evolution that can't happen with a God. It just does not hint towards any.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
That's the truly weird part of all this, Luis. Science is almost a universal language that is shared by all races, ethnicity, religions and political persuasions. Normally its one of the few areas people can agree on because they can check ideas and claims out for themselves.
Science is updated , especially about theories .
theory of Darwin was talen as good theory in the past "for some people" espcially atheists, now it's not .
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Science is updated , especially about theories .
Correct - but not nearly as consequential as you make it seem here.
theory of Darwin was talen as good theory in the past
Correct, but incomplete. As it turns out, it has only become better demonstrated and more complete since. It is for all practical purposes an established fact now. Has been around a century now.
"for some people"
Wrong. All informed people, instead.
espcially atheists,
Wrong.
now it's not .
Wrong.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Science is updated , especially about theories .
theory of Darwin was talen as good theory in the past "for some people" espcially atheists, now it's not .
That is ridiculous, Godobeyer. Reality does not agree with your opinion no matter how much you wish it did.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Correct - but not nearly as consequential as you make it seem here.

Correct, but incomplete. As it turns out, it has only become better demonstrated and more complete since. It is for all practical purposes an established fact now. Has been around a century now.

.

Do you mean , Darwin theory is update by scientists ?

I meant first one (original one).
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Your reality .
You know, this reminds of a conversation I was having with two people in real life. I listened to them blather on and on about a subject they didn't really know much about. I then took a few minutes to explain the errors in their thinking. I summed it all up with, "Don't believe me. Look it up. Find out what I'm saying is true!" They both simultaneously roared that that was JUST my opinion. I sat blinking for a sec and reiterated, appealing to their reason that they could simply research the topic and prove me wrong. (I knew with a high level of certainty that the chances of that were slim to nil.) Neither gave an inch and triumphantly felt they had won some contest of wits. It was truly breathtaking. Idiocy in numbers does not a reality make.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Demonstrable reality, Godobeyer.
No, you claim know the reality but you don't .

origine of life is theory not fact , and "natural selection" and "randomness" are just names to justify your ignorance and failure.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
You know, this reminds of a conversation I was having with two people in real life. I listened to them blather on and on about a subject they didn't really know much about. I then took a few minutes to explain the errors in their thinking. I summed it all up with, "Don't believe me. Look it up. Find out what I'm saying is true!" They both simultaneously roared that that was JUST my opinion. I sat blinking for a sec and reiterated, appealing to their reason that they could simply research the topic and prove me wrong. (I knew with a high level of certainty that the chances of that were slim to nil.) Neither gave an inch and triumphantly felt they had won some contest of wits. It was truly breathtaking. Idiocy in numbers does not a reality make.
Whatever.
My truth is different than yours.
 
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