Dr Adnan Ibrahim on Emotional Atheism

[Godobeyer]

There is not enough there to even discuss, sorry.

excuse me ?

 

[LuisDantas]

Things are as they are. The video is beyond weak. It is not, as they say, even wrong.

 

[Godobeyer]

Things are as they are. The video is beyond weak. It is not, as they say, even wrong.

Yes , I know you opinion, that which is totaly wrong .
especially when you just talks without discuss the points .

 

[FearGod]

I could say the same thing to theists who find atheism unconvincing, but that's not an argument by itself. I'd also need to explain why I think going back billions of years ago was evidence for anything, be it atheism or theism.

Then what makes you convinced about atheism?

 

[LuisDantas]

Yes , I know you opinion, that which is totaly wrong .
especially when you just talks without discuss the points .

There are no points, just prejudice and supertition. It is,sadly, not worth my time.

 

[Godobeyer]

There are no points, just prejudice and supertition. It is,sadly, not worth my time.

Really !!
I see no prejudice or supertition in his speech !!!

for exemple ?

 

[SkepticThinker]

They are extremely rare, on this forum and in reality.

However, I was interested in something you said, which I highlighted. If one understands their religion and I mean truly understands and decides to reject it, with that rejection being based on some sound logic and investigation, then I would call them a respectable person, a seeker of truth who has just started his or her journey.

There are a lot more than you seem to think.

 

[LuisDantas]

Let's not confuse religion with belief in God, either. Those are almost entirely unrelated things.

Despite the valiant efforts of some, it is outright impossible for any given person not to reject many religions.

And belief in God... is simply not something that should be actively pursued. It has lots of dangers and little to recommend it. It should be dealt with skillfully and respectfully when it arises on its own, of course.

 

[LuisDantas]

Really !!
I see no prejudice or supertition in his speech !!!

for exemple ?

Right at the start he says that the "world" or "universe" of the cell has been "proven" to be "clever".

That does not actually make any sense. It fails to be even wrong. He should have stopped right there and reconstructed his phrase if he aimed to say something coherent.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Right at the start he says that the "world" or "universe" of the cell has been "proven" to be "clever".

Sounds like something Deepak Chopra would say.

 

[LuisDantas]

Sounds like something Deepak Chopra would say.

Doesn't it now?

 

[Godobeyer]

Right at the start he says that the "world" or "universe" of the cell has been "proven" to be "clever".

That does not actually make any sense. It fails to be even wrong. He should have stopped right there and reconstructed his phrase if he aimed to say something coherent.

I believe it's Arabic language skills (differents),

for exemple
I can say world of Internet , world of animals ,world of technology ....etc , this valid in Arabic.

He meant cell is complex and impressive, he talking about cytology

 

[Debater Slayer]

Then what makes you convinced about atheism?

I see no evidence that any god or gods exist, so atheism makes sense to me. Someone's being an atheist doesn't mean that he/she doesn't understand religion or that he/she is being "emotional."

 

[Godobeyer]

I see no evidence that any god or gods exist, so atheism makes sense to me. Someone's being an atheist doesn't mean that he/she doesn't understand religion or that he/she is being "emotional."

Same feeling about atheism lol , it's does not make any sense to me , Dr Adnan called "mind suicide" , I do agree with him.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

So let's discuss the mistakes that he did.

Since some of us can't see the video (I'm on cell data ATM and I'm not going to waste it with your video), what if we start by you telling us the points made in the video that you consider the most compelling or important?

 

[LuisDantas]

Same feeling about atheism lol , it's does not make any sense to me , Dr Adnan called "mind suicide" , I do agree with him.

That basically means neither of you has a functional understanding of atheism. Nothing more than that.

 

[Godobeyer]

That basically means neither of you has a functional understanding of atheism. Nothing more than that.

No , I can't imagine that someone believe that he created by natural selective , I feel it's like insane.

 

[LuisDantas]

No , I can't imagine that someone believe that he created by natural selective , I feel it's like insane.

So you associate acceptance of natural selection with atheism? They are actually very separate, almost completely independent even.

In any case, you are doing neither justice, sorry to say.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Really !!
I see no prejudice or supertition in his speech !!!

for exemple ?

I think you need to realize something: what you're asking is unfair.

It's very easy to copy and paste a link to a video. It takes very little effort. Much less than creating your own written argument.

On the other hand, it takes much more effort to respond to a video point-by-point than it does to a written post. What you're asking of Luis is very unbalanced. It's unfair to him.

When you make a one-line post - and that's all your post with the video was - it doesn't deserve any more than a one-line response like the one that Luis has already given.

 

[Godobeyer]

So you associate acceptance of natural selection with atheism? They are actually very separate, almost completely independent even.

In any case, you are doing neither justice, sorry to say.

That's just one of course . I remember you always associate atheism to natural selection
there is randomness ,by accident , by evolution by time (millions of years )