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Dwindling Masculinity

Stevicus

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There's a lot of truth in this. The older I get, the more important I think it is for an old-school kinda guy like me to explicitly let younger men know it's fine to be different from those old stereotypes. Otherwise you get this weird generational play act going on.
(Cue my grandfather and father)

Back when the IMDb had message boards, I noticed a certain trend where some posters would take certain "manospherian" stance on movies and their characters. One such movie was The Karate Kid, where they seemingly took the side of the bullies against Ralph Macchio's character, calling him "Danielle," while celebrating the uber-"manliness" of the Cobra Kai. I don't know if they were just doing a parody or if they really meant it, although it was somewhat interesting.

There was also a level of glorification of mobster movies, with a special love for the characters played by Joe Pesci in Goodfellas and Casino. Another popular figure is Al Pacino in Scarface (although also well-liked in The Godfather).


  • Tony Montana : In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.


This, I think, represents a certain "masculine ideal" that men seem to strive for. Not necessarily being a criminal (although there's a certain amoral angle to all of it), but just the idea of money and power being aphrodisiacs which attract women.

It's on this point where men might resist taking the blame for toxic masculinity, since they might claim that they're merely playing the part that women would have them play.
 

Dan From Smithville

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And the rampant rise in "masculine" product branding.


5 Ways America's 'Masculinity Industry' Eats Men's Brains | Cracked.com

I find all this fake bravado and hullabaloo to be silly. I can't be the only one that thinks it's all bassackwards?
A very enlightening article. Thanks for sharing it.

Santa Clause does not dress like a Coke add in modern American mythology without a reason.

Culture promotes sales and sales promotes culture.

I like the idea of the self-made man, but that idea historically occurred within the context of a community. Being self-sufficient is not get them before they get you or melt because you see someone exercising their rights differently than you would.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
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