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einstein a jew?

sumaidi

ashabul yamin
is that right that many brilliant person in thinking come from jew? is albert einstein a jew? what about bill gates?
 

InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
Einstein was ethnically a Jew (his parents were secular jews), I do not however believe he was Jewish with regards to his faith. An outspoken humanist who was critical about many religious issues, I believe he was only a cultural jew much in the way of the modern jewish humanist societies - an agnostic, he was not an atheist and had similar criticism about atheism as he did about theism - on the principle of certainty of knowledge.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
is that right that many brilliant person in thinking come from jew?

Right or wrong is meaningless in this context. Count your blessings. The world is fortunate not only that so many Jews have been brilliant thinkers, but also that so many have chosen careers that served the interests of humanity. I think that says a lot.

is albert einstein a jew?
Actually, I have it on good authority that Einstein was a hologram of extraterrestrial origins projected onto the earth from an alien base on the moon. That would explain his pale complexion and fuzzy, slightly out of focus hair. Since I have no other plausible explanation for his complexion and hair, I myself accept the hologram theory.

what about bill gates?
Hmmm... pale complexion... slightly out of focus hair... you might be onto something!
 
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Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Albert Einstein, although he was of Jewish descent, was not a believer in Judaism as a religion:

Einstein & Faith - TIME said:
Einstein was descended, on both parents' sides, from Jewish tradesmen and peddlers who had, for at least two centuries, made modest livings in the rural villages of Swabia in southwestern Germany. With each generation they had become increasingly assimilated into the German culture they loved--or so they thought. Although Jewish by cultural designation and kindred instinct, they had little interest in the religion itself.

He leaned more towards an impersonal concept of God; "Spinoza's God", as he called it. He also didn't believe in an afterlife:

Einstein & Faith - TIME said:
To what extent are you influenced by Christianity? "As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene."
You accept the historical existence of Jesus? "Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."
Do you believe in God? "I'm not an atheist. I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws."
Is this a Jewish concept of God? "I am a determinist. I do not believe in free will. Jews believe in free will. They believe that man shapes his own life. I reject that doctrine. In that respect I am not a Jew."
Is this Spinoza's God? "I am fascinated by Spinoza's pantheism, but I admire even more his contribution to modern thought because he is the first philosopher to deal with the soul and body as one, and not two separate things."
Do you believe in immortality? "No. And one life is enough for me."


However, he constantly denied being an atheist, and spoke clearly on allegations that he was one:


Einstein & Faith - TIME said:
But throughout his life, Einstein was consistent in rejecting the charge that he was an atheist. "There are people who say there is no God," he told a friend. "But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views." And unlike Sigmund Freud or Bertrand Russell or George Bernard Shaw, Einstein never felt the urge to denigrate those who believed in God; instead, he tended to denigrate atheists. "What separates me from most so-called atheists is a feeling of utter humility toward the unattainable secrets of the harmony of the cosmos," he explained.


Here is the full article from the TIME Magazine about this subject, which I excerpted the above quotes from.

As for Bill Gates, he is an agnostic, as he clearly mentioned in his response to a question that was posed to him during an interview that took place in November 1995.
 

sumaidi

ashabul yamin
when its right einstein a jew ( one of israel clan), it proof a verse in quran that god create israel clan as the best race all over the world. theory of relativity ( that time, mass and distance are relative ) is almost doesn't make sense at all. by a simple theory of phithagoras, einstein has proofed the relative is right.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
I don't think it matters, if Einstein was ethnically Jew or religiously Jew or not. So I'm in agreement with Kai.

[FONT=&quot]The only things that matter were his scientific achievement and contribution, not because of the colour of his skin, or what religion (if any) he follow[/FONT]ed. I also admired him because of his humanist stance which, in my mind, outweighs any religious belief.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
when its right einstein a jew ( one of israel clan), it proof a verse in quran that god create israel clan as the best race all over the world. theory of relativity ( that time, mass and distance are relative ) is almost doesn't make sense at all. by a simple theory of phithagoras, einstein has proofed the relative is right.

I don't think it matters what religion (or lack thereof) Einstein believed in. Even if he were a follower of Judaism, it wouldn't really "prove" anything as he would just be one Jew out of millions.
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
A lot of brilliant thinkers have been Jews, simply because Judaism is a culture that values learning and encourages education, asking questions, and deep thinking.

By the same token, many great thinkers have also been produced by India, Japan, and China-- all cultures that value learning and education. And from the ninth to the fifteenth centuries CE, a disproportionate number of the Western World's scholars came from the Muslim countries of the Middle East and North Africa, at a time when Islamic culture was quite flexible in its thought, and encouraged many kinds of deep thinking and asking of questions.

What is unremarkable is that certain cultures will produce many brilliant thinkers, but that it is so clear that when a culture truly values learning and education, and acts upon those values in productive ways, it will consistently produce superb intellects.
 

sumaidi

ashabul yamin
A lot of brilliant thinkers have been Jews, simply because Judaism is a culture that values learning and encourages education, asking questions, and deep thinking.

By the same token, many great thinkers have also been produced by India, Japan, and China-- all cultures that value learning and education. And from the ninth to the fifteenth centuries CE, a disproportionate number of the Western World's scholars came from the Muslim countries of the Middle East and North Africa, at a time when Islamic culture was quite flexible in its thought, and encouraged many kinds of deep thinking and asking of questions.

What is unremarkable is that certain cultures will produce many brilliant thinkers, but that it is so clear that when a culture truly values learning and education, and acts upon those values in productive ways, it will consistently produce superb intellects.

i'm absolutely agree with you.
but when a man become a great thinker he should be also has a best quality of brain. its genetics
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
i'm absolutely agree with you.
but when a man become a great thinker he should be also has a best quality of brain. its genetics

Actually, while I'm sure good genetics has something to do with it, I think it has less to do with nature and more to do with nurture. In other words, one isn't (IMO) necessarily born brilliant: more often, I think, one's brilliance is fostered by an upbringing wherein education, learning, and asking questions are valued and emphasized.
 

InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
Or one is impaired in such a way that one is lucky enough that the brain compensates in a manner conducive to excellence in some specific area.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
is that right that many brilliant person in thinking come from jew? is albert einstein a jew? what about bill gates?

Einstein = Yes
Bill Gater= No

I am not a jew but I believe jews have about the highest IQ of any racial/ethnic group. So jews have contributed disproportionately more to the intellectual and cultural growth of the western world than other groups.

I believe the reasons are heredity and environment.

However, my views are controversial to some who do not accept that heriditary (genetic) factors are at play in group differences.
 

sumaidi

ashabul yamin
Einstein = Yes
Bill Gater= No

I am not a jew but I believe jews have about the highest IQ of any racial/ethnic group. So jews have contributed disproportionately more to the intellectual and cultural growth of the western world than other groups.

I believe the reasons are heredity and environment.

However, my views are controversial to some who do not accept that heriditary (genetic) factors are at play in group differences.


i agree with you. god has mentioned it in qur'an.
 

adambaum

Member
The Jewish people hold education in very high regard. This explains much of their success. Einstein had a big brain. It doesn't really matter if it was a big Jewish brain.
 
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