If as you say, Yeshua is God the Father, then how and why would he conceive himself?
sure, he's an ECHAD of himself, in Ordinal designations of First Father, and Last, Son. simply put a DIVERSITY/OFFSPRING of himself in flesh. see Phil 26: (smile), or Revelation 22:16
.
second you asked, "and why would he conceive himself?" did 101G say that? this is the main problem, people don't LISTEN. what was conceived? flesh bone and blood, NOW, IS GOD FLESH BONE AND BLOOD? no, he's a Spirit that the difference in the Son of God, flesh bone and blood that was conceived in Mary womb. and the spirit "Son of man" which was given and not conceived.
now what was "GIVEN?" as Isaiah 9:6 says, answer, a diversified spirit, putting it in Layman terms, "THE EQUAL SHARE OF HIMSELF, (GOD), IN FLESH BONE AND BLOOD". the prophet Isaiah was spot on as every prophet of God.
2ndpillar, let's see this EQUAL SPIRIT of GOD clearly in the ECHAD of "ONE" PERSON. listen and LEARN. Philippians 2:6 "Who,
being in the form of God, thought it not robbery
to be equal with God:" understand, the term "BEING" here is a present tense understanding. the Lord Jesus is in the "FORM" of God, which FORM here means NATURE, and the NATURE of God is Spirit, (per John 4:24a). now if he's the same Nature .... how is he "EQUAL .....
WITH" God the Spirit?. 101G submit to you the term "WITH". notice the verse says "EQUAL WITH", not EQUAL TO, see the difference, now, what is the consequences of BEING "EQUAL" ...... "WITH" ..... and not EQUAL TO? answer, "SHARE", an EQUAL SHARE of himself in Flesh in a G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') state as the very next verse explains, Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of
no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:"
the term of "
no reputation" is the Greek word,
G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v.
1. to make empty.
2. (figuratively) to abase, neutralize, falsify.
[from G2756]
KJV: make (of none effect, of no reputation, void), be in vain
Root(s): G2756
now let's get some UNDERSTANDING. if Philippians 2:6 would have said, "Equal to", then one would have a SEPARATE PERSON, because the definition "to" would have compared two separate and distinct persons as EQUAL. but "WITH" is used in the verse, meaning it's the same one person. now follow 101G. no one separate and distinct is equal to God, (read that again). supportive scriptures, Isaiah 40:25 "To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One." one more, Isaiah 46:5 "To whom will ye liken me,
and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like?" see, if one say someone else who is separate and distinct is equal to God in comparision.... then they violate scripture. which means the trinity of separate PERSON, but equal, is a ERROR.
now, how is the Lord Jesus "EQUAL" .....
WITH ..... God. notice Equal "With", not Equal To. the bible is Clear, since we're here in Philippians 2:6 let's start here and work our way back to the OT. here in Philippians 2:6, it states the Lord Jesus is in the "FORM" of God correct, the term "FORM" again means NATURE. it is the Greek word,
G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
[perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)]
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313
so the NATURE of the Lord Jesus is the SAME as GOD,,,,,, (Spirit). but the million dollar question "HOW in being EQUAL? the answer is right in the term it-self. the Root of G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') is G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros), which means, 1.
a portion (i.e.
an amount allotted,
a part of something). in the definition above of G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') , note, it said,
[perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)] understand, an ECHAD consist of PARTS, correct... two or more, well the question, what type of PARTS, as the definition said. the answer is in G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros), the ROOT word, as said, it means 1. a portion (i.e. an amount allotted, a part of something) WELL THERE IS OUR ANSWER, we need not go any further, the parts, YES, PARTS, of God in the ECHAD is EQUAL "SHARING" of ONE'S OWNSELF, and the proof as said in the definition of G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros), which means, 1.
a portion (i.e. an amount
allotted, a part of something), question, what do
portion means? answer, "SHARE". BINGO, there is the ANSWER to God's ECHAD PARTS of himself. God is the EQUAL "SHARE" of himself in Flesh bone and blood, his OWN Spirit, (IN THE ECHASD), was shared in a G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') state. this is the ARM of, of, of, God in flesh, per Isaiah chapter 53.
now let's understand the EQUAL "WITH" from the OT view in the ECHAD. as 101G said, God is an ECHAD of himself in Ordinal Designations of First/Father/LORD, and Last/Son/Lord. Father without flesh, (Spirit), "LORD", and Son with flesh, (as a Man). in a G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') state.
now scripture to back up the "WITH" as in EQUAL WITH. Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and
with the last;
I am he." here the First/Father/LORD, is "WITH" the Last/Son/Lord. NOW THIS,
Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first,
I also am the last." also indicate the same one person. in the ECHAD of God, he is the EQUAL SHARE "WITH" himself, that's why Isaiah 48:12 states, he's "ALSO". just as John states in John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and
the Word was God." THERE'S THAT WORD "
WITH", as in Isaiah meaning the same one person, as here in John 1:1 the same one person, "and the Word was God."
this is CLEAR as DAY. God is the ECHAD, or the Diversity (PARTS) of himself in flesh. one more scripture to prove out the bible and 101G posts. Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the
root and the
offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
this word "Offspring" is the Greek term,
G1085 γένος genos (ǰe'-nos) n.
kin.
{abstract or concrete, literal or figurative, individual or collective}
[from G1096]
KJV: born, country(-man),
diversity, generation, kind(-red), nation, offspring, stock
BINGO, there it is "DIVERSITY", which means an EQUAL "SHARE" of, of, of, GOD in Flesh, in the likeness of a man.
see the word "diversity" in the Greek describe the ECHAD in the OT as the EQUAL "SHARE" or as the ... PARTS .... That make the ECHAD of God. 2ndpillar we suggest you copy this and study it... ok. this answer the Godhead question completely.
101G.
ps, diversity, diversity, diversity, 1 Corinthians 12:4 "Now there are
diversities of gifts,
but the same Spirit." 1 Corinthians 12:5 "And there are differences, (
diversities) of administrations, but
the same Lord." 1 Corinthians 12:6 "And there are
diversities of operations,
but it is the same God which worketh all in all."
