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Elizabeth Warren for President(?)

Midnight Rain

Well-Known Member
Indeed. Comrade Warren would make a superb Democrat Candidate. *wrings hands in glee*
(What I find mildly surprising is that so many on RF seem to think she is exactly the tonic needed to invigorate the tired old Democrat ticket.)
She would be actually one of the few refreshing candidates. Joe Biden would be continued Obama snuff, Hillary might do okay but she has some major flaws and people may attempt to elect her to try and get Clinton back. The problem with this "Clinton Fever" is that people want the economic situation that just so happened to be during Clinton's years rather than his policies. Though some of his policies were good.

Warren comes at it from a new angle (or at least a different angle) than some of the other Democrats I've seen. We could do a lot worse.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Green?

Maybe she should run under the Green Party... or more to the point the the Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts:

Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts

But she didn't, isn't, won't ... which sort of makes me think she isn't interested in Green Party type principles, but rather political power. I mean, if she was Green, then why not run Green? She isn't.

All said and done, she is going to drive Hillary to the right as Clinton "moderates" and will only increase Hillary's chances to increase her huge led over Warren as the Clinton machine moves to the middle. Right now there is a purge starting and fractionalism openly in the Democratic Party to get rid of extremists such as Reid (who Warren is now trying to marry) and Pelosi, so soon Warren may have no choice but to run under the Green Party.
 

Midnight Rain

Well-Known Member
Green?

Maybe she should run under the Green Party... or more to the point the the Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts:

Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts

But she didn't, isn't, won't ... which sort of makes me think she isn't interested in Green Party type principles, but rather political power. I mean, if she was Green, then why not run Green? She isn't.

All said and done, she is going to drive Hillary to the right as Clinton "moderates" and will only increase Hillary's chances to increase her huge led over Warren as the Clinton machine moves to the middle. Right now there is a purge starting and fractionalism openly in the Democratic Party to get rid of extremists such as Reid (who Warren is now trying to marry) and Pelosi, so soon Warren may have no choice but to run under the Green Party.
Generally people shy away from 3rd parties because their chance of winning currently reduced to 0. She would have a much better chance at getting elected as a "leftist" democrat to push the same policies than she would be of any 3rd party.

Any leads or statistics done now are probably meaningless. We really won't have something accurate till about 6 months before the election.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Barrasso has been putting out feelers now that the American's may now realize their dream of repealling huge chunks of meat out of the carcass of Obamacare. So my question would be, where does Warren stand on this dream of the majority of America? Does she support these Dreamers of America? If not, her chances of becoming President in 2016 are about as good as Mayor de Blasio of New York becoming President.
 

Midnight Rain

Well-Known Member
Barrasso has been putting out feelers now that the American's may now realize their dream of repealling huge chunks of meat out of the carcass of Obamacare. So my question would be, where does Warren stand on this dream of the majority of America? Does she support these Dreamers of America? If not, her chances of becoming President in 2016 are about as good as Mayor de Blasio of New York becoming President.
After a quick google search it seems that she supports the ACA and opposes most alternative plans such as privatization of medicare.
 

Midnight Rain

Well-Known Member
Everything I heard about her on NPR I liked.To bad shes not libertarian or green party.
She is for regulation on banks and a few other sectors of the private industry so I don't think librarians would like her. And her focus doesn't seem to be on environmental issues but social and economic issues so the green party wouldn't support her either.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Indeed. Comrade Warren would make a superb Democrat Candidate. *wrings hands in glee*
(What I find mildly surprising is that so many on RF seem to think she is exactly the tonic needed to invigorate the tired old Democrat ticket.)
It seems more feeling than thinking.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
TARP ....
Tell us more.

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ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Warren is for the ACA?

Well my friend, today the official open enrollment kicked off on the new site at midnight -

... and now 12 hours into the new open enrollment as daylight came, the site stopped letting people log into their new accounts!


The friggin' site just choked! INCREDIBLE. My God, bring in the clowns.

There were even a dozen agents who wanted to demo the site and none of them could even log in.

It kept coming back "Your password is invalid" they said to the press. My God, after the first fiasco you would think they would see nothing goes wrong this time at the point of a gun, but incredibly again. This is laughable at this point.

Again they will say the same pile of horse manure as last time, "the vast majority" could log in. Wha??? Do you think Bank of America could get away with saying that, "no problem, the vast majority can log online to their bank account" ????

Many right now, at this moment are experiencing web issues after logging on taking them frum 1 to 3 hours to navigate and get through it. This is haplening right now as I type this.

Now it's just been reported the Washington state health exchange, had to take its Washington Healthplanfinder offline to resolve a problem in which 2015 tax credit amounts were being incorrectly calculated for customers.

Warren has zero chance of being President. Zero.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Indeed. Comrade Warren would make a superb Democrat Candidate. *wrings hands in glee*
(What I find mildly surprising is that so many on RF seem to think she is exactly the tonic needed to invigorate the tired old Democrat ticket.)


What was it John Gruber said.....?
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
But what is her platform? What would she do and how would she do it? What's her plan? The country just suffered through six years of pie-in-the-sky, empty rhetoric, give us just one of her meat and potatoes ideas (yeah, I'm hungry now).

Laundry list like you are asking for are meaningless. If a President has mass support and the party in position to back them up (which a democrat would not have if they won the next election), they will be doing well to pass one major piece of legislation (aka Obamacare) and they will then become such a lightening rod for every ***** from the opposition that they become useless.

It happened to Clinton, Bush and then Obama. It has become the norm. It todays political culture even someone like Reagan would be leaving office with his tail between his legs.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
Indeed. Comrade Warren would make a superb Democrat Candidate. *wrings hands in glee*
(What I find mildly surprising is that so many on RF seem to think she is exactly the tonic needed to invigorate the tired old Democrat ticket.)

I would pit her against just about anyone on the right in any economic discussion. Say what you like about the lady, she knows her stuff and can get her point across.

Who do you think would have a shot in a economic debate with Warren, left or right? And the Economy ranks in the top 3 issues for virtually every American across party lines.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Laundry list like you are asking for are meaningless. If a President has mass support and the party in position to back them up (which a democrat would not have if they won the next election), they will be doing well to pass one major piece of legislation (aka Obamacare) and they will then become such a lightening rod for every ***** from the opposition that they become useless.

It happened to Clinton, Bush and then Obama. It has become the norm. It todays political culture even someone like Reagan would be leaving office with his tail between his legs.


What are you saying? That we should vote for someone and then they tell us what they plan to do? And how they would do it? Hasn't the last six disastrous years taught us anything?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
What are you saying? That we should vote for someone and then they tell us what they plan to do? And how they would do it? Hasn't the last six disastrous years taught us anything?
It's like Obamacare.....it must first be passed so it becomes law, & only then will we know what's in it.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
I would like to see what kind of dirt people can bring up on her though.

Obviously, the 'elite liberal' college professor. We all no the type. They're going to pile on those troublesome regulations on banks
and selling of stocks etc. And then there's that tip off, supporting a level playing field. All kidding aside, I gave a great respect for her and her views, this just is not yet her time and I think she realizes that.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Here is another one, who like Warren has zero chance of becoming President, the Republican equivalent of Elizabeth Warren but from the high tech wing of the Republican Party and a big business and Chamber of Commerce type to "counter Warren":

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Carly Fiorina the former Hewlett-Packard chief executive wanting to be nominated for the Republican 2016 presidential run.

Reality check. She has about as much of a chance of becoming President as "Liz", which isn't any chance. Tell her to save her money, we (Repubs) are not going to fall for that bait even if "she's a woman!". Ppppppsssssheeesh.
 
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