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[Dave Watchman]

Whats the difference?

I'm calling it a biggie, because God called it an Abomination.

It might be that God is the Creator. Like the inventor of a device who takes a patent out on it. The Creator, the Inventor, has a right in governing the way we are produced, or reproduced.

"Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. - Genesis 2:24​

I do not understand why one sin is to be ignored as petty or dismissable and another is to be seized upon and savagely used to persecute innocents with.

I wouldn't say ignore, or dismiss the small sins. You should be able to recognize eating pork and lobster is not the same as committing adultery.

Surely God sees all sins as sins.

A sin that leads to death, the penalty for sin is death. "To those who commit sins that do not lead to death.

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. - Romans 6:23​

All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that does not lead to death.

There's sin that's easy to be forgiven for. Jesus said do not blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

"Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. - Jesus​

How do humans gauge his or her benchmark of seriousness exactly?

I can only estimate by what's written in the Bible.

I do not understand.

A lawyer was questioning Jesus.

What is the greatest commandment?

Even not all the commandments have an equally significant impact to the transgressing of the law.

“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.​

 

[Little Dragon]

I wouldn't say ignore, or dismiss the small sins. You should be able to recognize eating pork and lobster is not the same as committing adultery.

I do not consider either of those things sins, I also do not know what sin is in relation to me, since I do not adhere to that religious doctrine.

 

[Little Dragon]

I'm calling it a biggie, because God called it an Abomination.

It might be that God is the Creator. Like the inventor of a device who takes a patent out on it. The Creator, the Inventor, has a right in governing the way we are produced, or reproduced.

"Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. - Genesis 2:24

I do not doubt you think this verse has some "truth". I do not argue that you do not consider homosexuality wrong.

Just why the fixation on that particular sin? These days. When there are so many to choose from. Some so ignored too!

God of course, dd not call it an abomination, the author of that passage and translator did.

I could not disagree more with that verse on the nature of biologic function in humans.

Your binary non naturalistic and simplistic definition of what humans should be doing, is ignorant.

 

[ChristineM]

I do not consider either of those things sins, I also do not know what sin is in relation to me, since I do not adhere to that religious doctrine.

I have often said (to much consternation) that not having a god means i cannot sin. One of the advantages of atheism!

 

[Little Dragon]

I have often said (to much consternation) that not having a god means i cannot sin. One of the advantages of atheism!

Precisely, I owe this God of theirs nothing whatsoever. If they want to pour ashes on their heads and lament their innate humanity and fallibility. Then knock yourselves out, but don't drag me into your quagmire of projection self loathing and sexual insecurity. Plz.

 

[Little Dragon]

I can only estimate by what's written in the Bible.

Problematic, given it was written by humans and copied by humans, and compiled by humans, and edited by humans and translated by humans.

 

[Bthoth]

Problematic, given it was written by humans and copied by humans, and compiled by humans, and edited by humans and translated by humans.

the revised revisions from the previous revisions revised to be taken seriously.

 

[ChristineM]

the revised revisions from the previous revisions revised to be taken seriously.

Which version? There are over 450 English language version and who knows how many in other languages.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

IMO…Before that comes, we’ll see the destruction of most of religion.
(Babylon the Great, Revelation chaps. 17 & 18)

 

[Bthoth]

Which version? There are over 450 English language version and who knows how many in other languages.

You'd have to be very special to know them all. Not even bible gateway has them all.

I just laugh because most every version of bible is practically babble with changes on most every page.

Then if you back to versions like the Douay Rheims 1899 version they still have old greek terms being used. See Lev 3:5 and find a word that rings bells. What is funny, is that burnt offering, is exactly what the 'red heifer' ritual is about at the mount in jerusalem. The focal problem of the whole israel/palestinian violence.

The discrepancies to be found in bible are hugenormous (i love that word).

 

[Dave Watchman]

I have often said (to much consternation) that not having a god means i cannot sin. One of the advantages of atheism!

We can say anything. We can say we don't believe in the laws of physics, and that the law of gravity will have no impact on them. Until we test it and take a jump of that Eiffel Tower. We may never believe until we hit the terminus.

 

[Little Dragon]

We can say anything. We can say we don't believe in the laws of physics, and that the law of gravity will have no impact on them. Until we test it and take a jump of that Eiffel Tower. We may never believe until we hit the terminus.

I'l take my chances! I don't believe a word anyone says about something that cannot be verified or tested,

Unlike the gravitational force.

 

[Little Dragon]

We can say anything. We can say we don't believe in the laws of physics, and that the law of gravity will have no impact on them. Until we test it and take a jump of that Eiffel Tower. We may never believe until we hit the terminus.

Also I find the concept of hell, primitive and absurd. So I do not fear such an outcome, upon my death. If there is a God, and if it has an issue with me and my sinning whilst alive, should such a thing exist, then it can discuss it with me. Until then. I will judge reality by the information I can glean about it.

 

[Dave Watchman]

The forum does a weird thing now. An orange bar goes left to right.

Then 3 vertical squares blink off and on at the upper right.

It's freaking me out.

Does anyone believe me?

I do not doubt you think this verse has some "truth". I do not argue that you do not consider homosexuality wrong.

Just why the fixation on that particular sin? These days. When there are so many to choose from. Some so ignored too!

God of course, dd not call it an abomination, the author of that passage and translator did.

This one is the biggie indicator. God wrote it. I know it. He called it twice in both the Testaments. This is something I can hold in my hand and use to reverse engineer the prophetic time period back through the middle ages to the Ottoman Decree to restore and to rebuild. Me and a couple other guys figured it out in 2015.

It's been verified and tested. It's the se2cond green bar in my bar graph. It is the empirical that can assist to predict how much time we have remaining. When you see the Days of Lot, standing where it ought not to be, flee to the mountains. 1290 days.

I'm also curious. What would you guys do if you could know for a fact, not just that the Bible is true, but that it's happening now. Christ is coming back very soon. What would you do? Buy bags of rice? Try to dig a bunker? Call on the mountains and the rocks to fall on us and hide us from the Face of He who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb?

 

[Dave Watchman]

Also I find the concept of hell, primitive and absurd. So I do not fear such an outcome, upon my death. If there is a God, then if it has an issue with me and my sinning, should such a thing exist, then it can discuss it with me. Until then. I will judge reality by the information I can glean about it.

You overlooked the other post. The penalty for sin is death, the second death from Revelation 20. Dreadful sorry Clementine. (Lost and gone forever)

God will not punish anyone in hell forever. The Christians who read it that way can't imagine infinity into the future. What about after a zillion trillion years? Would God look in on them and ask: How would you like me to turn your lights out? Like you were never born. The truth is that it never gets that far. The penalty for sin is death. This is talking about the second death from Revelation 20 after Judgment Day. Meeting with Jesus, every knee will bow. Then weeping and gnashing of teeth. I'm not really looking forward to it. Jesus is going to have to wipe the tears from my eyes too.

Dreadful sorry.

 

[Kenny]

Yes I know about Lot, a paragon of virtue. Which to me is puzzling, given his drunken incestuous impregnation of his own daughters. I do not understand so much about the Christian faith. It is so very alien to me.

Maybe you aren’t asking the right questions or the person who is answering doesn’t have the right answer?

I thought it was pretty simple.

 

[Kenny]

I'm calling it a biggie, because God called it an Abomination.

All sin is an abomination… but no sin is too big for the blood that was shed.

 

[Audie]

I have often said (to much consternation) that not having a god means i cannot sin. One of the advantages of atheism!

But I have that AND I cannot be racist!

 

[Little Dragon]

Maybe you aren’t asking the right questions or the person who is answering doesn’t have the right answer?

I thought it was pretty simple.

I understand the words exiting their food holes, but the illogical nature of their meaning, is puzzling.

 

[Little Dragon]

I'm also curious. What would you guys do if you could know for a fact, not just that the Bible is true, but that it's happening now. Christ is coming back very soon. What would you do? Buy bags of rice? Try to dig a bunker? Call on the mountains and the rocks to fall on us and hide us from the Face of He who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb?

Laugh.