Altfish
Veteran Member
Aaron Banks is the main puppet master
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EU Elections 2019
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Altfish
Veteran Member
Back to insults.
Again, I ask, what is it you will be able to do that you can't do today when we leave?
And check your facts about 'unelected people' because our Civil Service is not elected.
Britain will be able to say: I am not ruled by the Fourth Reich any more.
Isn't that a valid reason?
Besides 5 star movement has said that if Von der Leyen hinders Brexit, they will vote her out and this new European Commission will be over after 5 seconds.
Merkel's dictatorship is officially over.
Warning to EU: Farage teases he’s ‘very close’ to reaching alliance to terrify Brussels
Merkel's dictatorship is officially over.
Warning to EU: Farage teases he’s ‘very close’ to reaching alliance to terrify Brussels
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Altfish
Veteran Member
But I do not feel ruled, I can travel freely to countries I enjoy.
I see no benefit at all in leaving.
You will be able to do that after Brexit too.
Altfish
Veteran Member
But with added checks at borders, no free healthcare
Travel will not be as easy post Brexit
Notanumber
A Free Man
Not an insult, just an inconvenient truth.
Already answered.
Unelected Olly was given much more power than the elected Brexit secretary ever was.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Freedom from oppression is much more valuable than freedom of movement and travel perks.
Altfish
Veteran Member
How are you oppressed.
What are you currently unable to do that after 1st November you'll be able to do?
Italy is a net contributor...so it is irrelevant to us whether Btitain stays or not.
The Swiss don't have any travel limitations in Europe..so...why should the British have them?
Altfish
Veteran Member
If you are a net contributer it is irrelevant; the money is made from the free trade deals.
All members of the EU profit from its existence.
Augustus
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I live in Asia, so not much really
Wasn't really my point though. Policies like the Euro, and free movement of people combined with rapid expansion into Eastern Europe were terrible ideas, pursued for ideological reasons above all. The latter has already lost them one major member, the former devastated the economies of Greece particularly, but not solely.
The EU and Europhiles still think that 'ever closer union' (i.e. the expansion of transnational governance) is a good policy to pursue, even though this certainly does not reflect the will of the people and is one of the primary causes of the rise of the far right.
It will also ultimately cause the further break up of the EU; the preference of ideology over reality tends not to work as intended after all.
Augustus
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If only the EU saw itself merely as a facilitator of free trade...
Notanumber
A Free Man
Altfish
Veteran Member
The UK is not in the Euro.I live in Asia, so not much really
Wasn't really my point though. Policies like the Euro, and free movement of people combined with rapid expansion into Eastern Europe were terrible ideas, pursued for ideological reasons above all. The latter has already lost them one major member, the former devastated the economies of Greece particularly, but not solely.
The EU and Europhiles still think that 'ever closer union' (i.e. the expansion of transnational governance) is a good policy to pursue, even though this certainly does not reflect the will of the people and is one of the primary causes of the rise of the far right.
It will also ultimately cause the further break up of the EU; the preference of ideology over reality tends not to work as intended after all.
I'm not a Europhile, I just think we are better off in than out - by quite a distance.
There are many things that need changing but I could say exactly the same about the UK, in fact I'd say we need more changes.
Altfish
Veteran Member
So, what will other people be able to do that they can't do now?
Notanumber
A Free Man
Are you saying it will be more difficult to carry out those changes that you desire once we take back control?
Notanumber
A Free Man
We will be able to elect accountable politicians to make those changes that you desire.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Yes, because no one has told us what changes we want.
Also, if we still want to trade with Europe we will still have to meet all their standards but have no influence over those standards.
If we want to trade with the uS we will have to lower our food standards.