Europe wants peace

[Kathryn]

I already have gotten an answer.

Thanks.

 

[Kathryn]

You: They're racist. See? *Provides sources that talks about the rising far-right and racist violence.*
Me: Yeah, just like America and a lot of other countries right now. America might even have a far-right racist president by next year like we did a few years ago.
You: Oh, racism isn't an issue in Ukraine?

? Pointing out that rising racism isn't unique to Ukraine doesn't mean it's not a problem in Ukraine. It means it's not unique to Ukraine. If you're going to denigrate them for it, denigrate America and a bunch of other countries too.

No, since Ukraine has such a serious issue with it, I'll stick with them.

 

[Altfish]

That's not true.
Putin has been chasing them...that is why he is considered wicked by the West.

Jesus whipped the moneychangers away from the Temple, so that's what a real Christian would do.

Sorry, Putin wants it all for himself.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No, since Ukraine has such a serious issue with it, I'll stick with them.

Yeah, I won't ask for evidence as that is not your thing. Rather I have another opinion than you.

 

[Kathryn]

I gave evidence of racism in Ukraine.

Yeah, I won't ask for evidence as that is not your thing. Rather I have another opinion than you.

I didn't give any other evidence since the request was pretty vague. But I did give that. Sorry if you didn't like the evidence I gave.

 

[Magic Man]

You are an American so you are the one supposed to explain me why your country is persecuting a person from Australia.

How can I know the exact reason?

No, you're the one claiming it's happening. So, explain your position.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I gave evidence of racism in Ukraine.

I didn't give any other evidence since the request was pretty vague. But I did give that. Sorry if you didn't like the evidence I gave.

Sorry if I overlooked it. I haven't read all of the thread, but the one I did see is in effect no worse that other parts in Europa and other parts of the world.

 

[Magic Man]

No, since Ukraine has such a serious issue with it, I'll stick with them.

Right. You'll ignore the serious issues America has with it and that so many other countries have with it and concentrate solely on Ukraine. Because your right-wing thought leaders spread that in order to make Ukraine look bad and to therefore support Putin and his invasion.

I'll stick to the fact that America has a serious issues with racism too and that Ukraine isn't significantly different, and so them having that same problem doesn't in any way justify Russia's invasion.

 

[Kathryn]

Right. You'll ignore the serious issues America has with it and that so many other countries have with it and concentrate solely on Ukraine. Because your right-wing thought leaders spread that in order to make Ukraine look bad and to therefore support Putin and his invasion.

I'll stick to the fact that America has a serious issues with racism too and that Ukraine isn't significantly different, and so them having that same problem doesn't in any way justify Russia's invasion.

Ukraine has more serious issues with racism than the US does. But hey, that's just my opinion, right?

By the way, Russian people are among the most racist in Ukraine.

Oh and Ukrainians are big on banning books, for the record.

 

[Pogo]

Explain me, then.
What did he do wrong?

What laws did Julian Assange violate?

The New York Times stated: "Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks leader, was indicted on 17 counts of violating the Espionage Act for his role in obtaining and publishing secret military and diplomatic documents in 2010, the Justice Department announced on Thursday — a novel case that raises profound First Amendment issues."

Whether he can be found guilty or not is the question, not whether he accessed secret documents without authorization.
I would assume that Italy has similar laws since you claim all western law is based on Roman Law.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Ukraine has more serious issues with racism than the US does. But hey, that's just my opinion, right?

Well, it is all opinion including religion and it is all alternate facts and you make your own reality. Didn't you get the memo!!!

 

[Stevicus]

Admittedly we are still way behind, but the ACA has survived several years of attacks and there are things like NYSOH that actually competitively provide health insurance without having to have it depending on an employers group rates.

I am continually amazed at the number of little dogs who think dog eat dog is good for themselves.

We're still quite a ways behind.

 

[Pogo]

Right. You'll ignore the serious issues America has with it and that so many other countries have with it and concentrate solely on Ukraine. Because your right-wing thought leaders spread that in order to make Ukraine look bad and to therefore support Putin and his invasion.

I'll stick to the fact that America has a serious issues with racism too and that Ukraine isn't significantly different, and so them having that same problem doesn't in any way justify Russia's invasion.

Is the argument that Russia doesn't have a racism issue and so they can impose on others? LOL Or is it just another whataboutism attempt to avoid the issue?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Is the argument that Russia doesn't have a racism issue and so they can impose on others? LOL Or is it just another whataboutism attempt to avoid the issue?

No, the arguemnet is that Ukraine are Nazis, racists and so on and that this is a part of how Russia is justified in attacking, because they are not really attacking. They are defending against the Nazis and so on, that are suppressing Russians in Ukraine. There is even more if you want to know.

 

[Estro Felino]

No, you're the one claiming it's happening. So, explain your position.

This is the article

Julian Assange: Wikileaks founder can challenge US extradition

It means Mr Assange can remain in the UK for now and challenge US assurances over his prospective trial.

www.bbc.com

 

[Estro Felino]

Whether he can be found guilty or not is the question, not whether he accessed secret documents without authorization.
I would assume that Italy has similar laws since you claim all western law is based on Roman Law.

In my country it is legal to break into someone's apartment to steal evidence that prove big crimes.
It's called scriminante.
For instance...in your apartment you have a footage showing that you murdered a person.
If I steal that from you to expose you and send you to jail, I can do that in Italy.

Force majeure.

What about the United States?

 

[Pogo]

No, the arguemnet is that Ukraine are Nazis, racists and so on and that this is a part of how Russia is justified in attacking, because they are not really attacking. They are defending against the Nazis and so on, that are suppressing Russians in Ukraine. There is even more if you want to know.

You buy that garbage, are you telling me there are no neo-nazis in Italy, should Russia invade you because there are a few?
Oh, nevermind I forgot you are a neo-facist.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

You buy that garbage, are you telling me there are no neo-nazis in Italy, should Russia invade you because there are a few?
Oh, nevermind I forgot you are a neo-facist.

No, I explained what the claim is. Not that I believe in it, which I don't.

 

[Magic Man]

Ukraine has more serious issues with racism than the US does. But hey, that's just my opinion, right?

It's possible they're a little worse, but it's not a significant difference.

By the way, Russian people are among the most racist in Ukraine.

Oh and Ukrainians are big on banning books, for the record.

So, again, just like Americans? You're just throwing out anything negative you can think of to try to smear Ukraine, aren't you?

 

[Magic Man]

This is the article

Julian Assange: Wikileaks founder can challenge US extradition

It means Mr Assange can remain in the UK for now and challenge US assurances over his prospective trial.

www.bbc.com

OK, now explain your position.