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Europe wants peace

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Are you capable of staying on point?
Sounds like you can't.
Why should stay on a single point? Given that you won't answer some of my questions?
Seems like whenever your claims are shown to be bullocks, you quickly change the topic to some other random subject.
It's quite pathetic tbh.
Because you won't answer my questions. So I need to move on another topic, hoping that you don't plead the fifth.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Why should stay on a single point?

Intellectual honesty? You make a claim, are shown data that refutes said claim and then you simply start talking about something else.
Not acknowledging you were wrong at all. And you do this in the hope that it will get buried in the pages of the thread. Later on you are back making the same false claim again.

This is your MO

Given that you won't answer some of my questions?

What question didn't I answer which was relevant to the points being talked about?
Sure, I won't answer questions that only serve to distract from the point at hand.
Not because I don't want to answer questions. Instead, simply because I refuse to be dragged into your topic changing MO.


Because you won't answer my questions.

Again, show me a question which was relevant to the point being discussed that I refused to answer. Link the post.

So I need to move on another topic, hoping that you don't plead the fifth.
Lies.

You made a claims. I challenged and refuted the claims.
You then immediately started yapping about completely different things.

Like with your claim about what Ukrainians think about the war effort.
I showed you independent surveys demonstrated your claim to be false.
Your response consisted of completely ignoring those surveys, even literally explicitly deleting them from the quoted post, and you then started talking about Italians in WW2, which as nothing at all to do with it.

There were no questions on your part. There were no missing answers.
There was just your claim about Ukrainians, the subsequent refutation of that claim and then you completely changing the subject.

It's right there for all to see.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Intellectual honesty? You make a claim, are shown data that refutes said claim and then you simply start talking about something else.
Not acknowledging you were wrong at all. And you do this in the hope that it will get buried in the pages of the thread. Later on you are back making the same false claim again.

This is your MO



What question didn't I answer which was relevant to the points being talked about?
Sure, I won't answer questions that only serve to distract from the point at hand.
Not because I don't want to answer questions. Instead, simply because I refuse to be dragged into your topic changing MO.




Again, show me a question which was relevant to the point being discussed that I refused to answer. Link the post.


Lies.

You made a claims. I challenged and refuted the claims.
You then immediately started yapping about completely different things.

Like with your claim about what Ukrainians think about the war effort.
I showed you independent surveys demonstrated your claim to be false.
Your response consisted of completely ignoring those surveys, even literally explicitly deleting them from the quoted post, and you then started talking about Italians in WW2, which as nothing at all to do with it.

There were no questions on your part. There were no missing answers.
There was just your claim about Ukrainians, the subsequent refutation of that claim and then you completely changing the subject.

It's right there for all to see.


My question: did we Italians do wrong, when we surrendered to the Americans in 1943? :)
 
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TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
My question: did we Italians do wrong, when we surrendered to the Americans in 1943? :)
See, this is exactly the MO I was talking about and your dishonesty in approaching this.
Not only is this a question that only serves to distract from the post, it is even completely false that you asked this question before. So your claim that I "refused to answer questions" is also false.

Here's the way this conversation ACTUALLY went:

I speak Russian so I can understand a little bit of Ukrainian.
It's the former president, Zelenskyy who is doing nothing but complain about how the help is belated/ insufficient.

Ukrainians are fleeing en masse...and come to my country too, saying that in that country there is a dictatorship that forces them to fight a lost war.
Like Mussolini, who forced Italians to fight Russians in the steppe. A lost war.

So you claim that Ukrainians don't want to fight in the war, are forced to do so against their will and are against their leaders.

I proceed by showing you independent surveys that demonstrate this to be wrong and that in fact the majority WANTS Ukraine to fight the Russians, WANT to win the war and that the approval rating of Zelensky is in fact through the roof.

You then replied to that post by 1) completely ignoring the surveys and 2) saying (not "asking") the following off topic drivel in post #554:

How strange.
Many Italians were sick and tired to fight an idiotic war ideated by Nazis, so they voted out Mussolini in 1943, and executed him in 1945.
It can happen the same thing in Ukraine too...if Ukrainians get tired of the war... ;)

And by the way...we surrendered to the Americans in 1943, so sometimes it takes courage to admit that the war is lost.
;)

So no questions there. Just off topic drivel that has nothing to do with the Ukrainian stance on the war or Zelensky.

I then bring to your attention that you are off topic (your own topic, even). You then "accuse" me of not answering question.
When I then ask you to tell me which (on topic) question I supposedly didn't answer, you come back with the question quoted at the top of this post. A question you never actually asked AND which -as I predicted- only serves to distract from the point at hand.

Quite shameless, if you ask me.


Now, any time you wish to actually respond to how your claim about Ukrainian's stance on the war was FALSE........................

At this point, not holding my breath though.
I predict another off topic one-line that is neither here nor there.
Perhaps something about soros or some bank you don't like, maybe?
Whatever you feel you need to ramble about to distract from the fact that you made false claims and don't wish to admit your error, I guess.


Perhaps you can link to another "poll" on youtube of which the methodology wouldn't even be sufficient for a grade school paper.
 
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