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European Union: the lounge-loving and elitist Left has been defeated

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
The thread title strikes me as a bit dramatic. The two biggest groups in the European Parliament are, by far, the EPP and the S&D, both of which are closer to the center (center right and center left, respectively) and are not far-right. It is true that the far right has gained some seats, but this means the majority will have to work more with them. Neither the far right nor the other groups will have unilateral or complete influence on EU policies on their own.

I hope the extreme aspects of the far right's policies are reined in by the democratic mechanisms of the European Parliament. Hopefully the far right won't do too much damage on any major issues (e.g., the Ukraine war and immigration) until their seats are up for grabs again in the next election cycle.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Well, yes. They will do as long as you list the source of them.
This is from LA7, a leftist channel, as you can see from the logo of the screenshot

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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
As a socialist, I find right-wing populism and right-wing nationalism more aligned with my vision of Europe...and in Europe many voters have clearly stated that they repel that fake, phony "left-wing" that loves lounges and yachts among bankers and freemasons, and couldn't care less about the people's needs.

In France...the French have understood that Macron belongs to the élites. At last.
In Germany...the right-wing wins, also considering that that AfD is the second party.
In all the other EU countries the nationalism and right-wing populism win...prevail over the lounge-loving and carefree Left.

I am really sorry for them...but I guess that they probably should quit politics...because they will have to bow to the Right-Wing's whims...otherwise the EU collapses under the weight of farmers' protests, anti-war protests and revolts.

I mean...there are the Caribbeans as alternative...they are Heaven. I mean...Tax Havens. ;)
They have a worrisome history of devolving into repressive, regimented, militarized societies.

You paint the left as hedonistic. It is not. It is a compassionate movement for human rights, prosperity, happiness and fairness.
Fascism sees people as unified minions of The State, whose raison d'être is to further state policy. It suppresses any individualism, human rights, or personal interests.
Read some of Mussolini's speeches.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You paint the left as hedonistic. It is not.
The European Left? Yes. It's a banking Left.
Light years away from the populace, whom they repel. :)
It is a compassionate movement for human rights, prosperity, happiness and fairness.
In a parallel universe, maybe.
Fascism sees people as unified minions of The State, whose raison d'être is to further state policy. It suppresses any individualism, human rights, or personal interests.
Read some of Mussolini's speeches.
I believe The State is the supreme entity that all citizens should worship, because it represents the common good.
Individualistic and selfish needs come second.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Italians would support Putin if they had to fight in this war because they feel disgust towards the globalist sewer.
the one that the tsar fights against. :)
1) There is no tsar. That was done away with a century ago.

2) Why do you think the opinion of Italians toward the war is relevant? Let's assume a majority of Italians support Russia in their invasion of Ukraine. So?
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I thought you could speak Italian.
How many languages do you speak?
I speak English, German, French, Spanish and Italian. As every European should. ;)

Well, no. This is an English speaking site. If you have an Italian site do the Google translate and chekc if it makes sense. Then use that.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
1) There is no tsar. That was done away with a century ago.

2) Why do you think the opinion of Italians toward the war is relevant? Let's assume a majority of Italians support Russia in their invasion of Ukraine. So?
So, since we are a relevant country in the EU, I kindly advise Americans to mind their own business and to not interfere in this war.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Well, no. This is an English speaking site. If you have an Italian site do the Google translate and chekc if it makes sense. Then use that.
The survey is:
- At this point of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, we need to
A) decrease the support for Ukraine and find dialogue with Putin's Russia 62%
B) keep providing with weapons and supporting Ukraine's resistance 24%
C) Don't know, won't tell 14%
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
The survey is:
- At this point of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, we need to
A) decrease the support for Ukraine and find dialogue with Putin's Russia 62%
B) keep providing with weapons and supporting Ukraine's resistance 24%
C) Don't know, won't tell 14%

Yeah, how was it conducted, by what company and who paid for it?
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
So, since we are a relevant country in the EU, I kindly advise Americans to mind their own business and to not interfere in this war.
1) What does that have to do with what we were talking about? We were talking about your support for the far right, despite the fact that they oppose the things you claim to support.

2) How do you figure Italy is a relevant country to a conflict that doesn't involve Italy?

3) What does the supposed support of Italians for Putin have to do with whether America should be involved in the war? Those are two separate issues.

4) Italy still supports Ukraine. But even if they didn't, their support or denial of support wouldn't affect how America should act.
 
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