Europeans on the Americans

[Revoltingest]

I certainly am, sat in an office on Whitworth Street West at this very moment trying to work out if I'll need a brolly when I go home in just over an hour.

What a coincidence!
I have Whitworth wrenches (for my British motorcycles).
No taps or dies though.

 

[Altfish]

What a coincidence!
I have Whitworth wrenches (for my British motorcycles).
No taps or dies though.

The standard Whitworth thread was invented by Joseph Whitworth who lived in Manchester and bequeathed much of his wealth to the city.We also have The Whitworth Art Gallery

 

[Quintessence]

I remember several years ago reading through the results of one of the PEW Research studies contrasting typical "American" values with typical "European" values. It is quite interesting even today, and if you want to take a gander, it's over here: http://www.pewglobal.org/2011/11/17/the-american-western-european-values-gap/

When reading it, it made me say to myself "boy, I was obviously born in the wrong part of the world - I'm an "American" with solidly "European" values. Should I relocate or something?"

 

[Revoltingest]

The standard Whitworth thread was invented by Joseph Whitworth who lived in Manchester and bequeathed much of his wealth to the city.We also have The Whitworth Art Gallery

Oh, I know.
I've read Roe's book (among others) on machine tool history.
It's a real page turner!

 

[Quetzal]

Oh, I know.
I've read Roe's book (among others) on machine tool history.
It's a real page turner!

 

[Kirran]

@Altfish :O We may have passed by each other on the street and never known. I don't think you'll need the brolly. I am within 10 mminutes of your office every day.

 

[Altfish]

@Altfish :O We may have passed by each other on the street and never known. I don't think you'll need the brolly. I am within 10 mminutes of your office every day.

It's a small world or should that be a small web

 

[Kirran]

It's a small world or should that be a small web

Will you give me a lift to the train station on Friday?

 

[Altfish]

Will you give me a lift to the train station on Friday?

If you don't mind a piggy back

 

[Kirran]

If you don't mind a piggy back

Yeah, OK!

 

[Skwim]

To any non-American pals here on RF, I am sorry our politicians are corrupt.

Don't know why you feel you need to apologize for the actions of others, but okay. And while you take exception to anyone for painting all Americans as third grade bullies, you have no trouble painting all politicians as corrupt.

I am sorry our media is out of control.

Just how is it out of control? Because almost all of it declines to support Trump?

I am sorry our healthcare system is a rip off

Really? Perhaps you'd like to explain.

I will say that you will be hard pressed to find someone in this country that does not, on some level, agree with you.

Considering that half the population has an IQ below normal I have to agree.

We want to make fun of it and change it just as much as you do.

You want to make fun of our supposed shortcomings? Really? How patriotic of you. *NOT!*


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[Quetzal]

And while you take exception to anyone for painting all Americans as third grade bullies, you have no trouble painting all politicians as corrupt.

Sure, I will amend and say "a great number of them" are corrupt.

Just how is it out of control? Because almost all of it declines to support Trump?

I didn't have a candidate in mind with this statement. However, many american news outlets are defined by extreme bias and, more often than not, skew facts and stories to fit a narrative which may not be true.

Really? Perhaps you'd like to explain.

Do you think the medical costs that patients are expected to pay in the US are fair? Do you think health insurance does a good job at what it is designed to do?

Considering that half the population has an IQ below normal I have to agree.

Is it that low? I didn't know that.

You want to make fun of our supposed shortcomings? Really? How patriotic of you. *NOT!*

Hmm, you appear to have taken offense to this post and presented quite an army of strawmen in response. That line was partially a joke, by the way.

 

[David1967]

Europeans are too trusting, but Americans certainly are too paranoid. Its easy for Europeans to opt for socialism and risk totalitarianism, but its easy for Americans to starve our own. Looking at the crisis in Greece and Spain I suspect America is closer to stability, but I do regret that we are very paranoid and have locked ourselves in the basement.

Hey! I'm not paranoid. ..I'm aware.

 

[Skwim]

I didn't have a candidate in mind with this statement. However, many american news outlets are defined by extreme bias and, more often than not, skew facts and stories to fit a narrative which may not be true.

"Many American news outlets" is a far cry from "our media." And although most media agencies do have a liberal bent, I fail to see this as an "extreme bias" among many of them. Which media agencies do you have in mind?

Do you think the medical costs that patients are expected to pay in the US are fair?

Aside from the question of what you mean by "fair," and the fact that I don't think anyone should have to pay for health care, I'm not in a position to say that in main health providers are "ripping" us off. That is, making undue profits at our expense.

Do you think health insurance does a good job at what it is designed to do?

I can only speak of my own, which has been great.

Is it that low? I didn't know that.

Yes it is. An IQ of of 100 is considered to be average: half the population has an IQ above 100 and half has an IQ below 100.

NOTE: The following descriptive classifications are not set in stone or shared by all psychologists, but reflect a general consensus.

Over 140 - Genius or almost genius
120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence
110 - 119 - Superior intelligence
90 - 109 - Average or normal intelligence
80 - 89 - Dullness
70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency in intelligence
70-50 - Mild mental retardation
50-35- Moderate mental retardation
35-20 - Severe mental retardation
IQ < 20 - Profound mental retardation
source

Percentage figures are of the population as a whole: 68% of the population has an IQ between 85 and 115 while 95 % of the population has an IQ between 70 and 130.
Using the descriptive terms above, while 34% of the population has an IQ 85-100, which may indicate they are dull, those with an IQ of 70-85 indicate they are likely to be " borderline deficient in intelligence" This means that 48% (34% + 14%) of the population is likely to be intellectually dull or deficient, if not worse (the other 2%) .

Hmm, you appear to have taken offense to this post and presented quite an army of strawmen in response.

Not at all. Just trying to keep things in perspective.


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[Quetzal]

"Many American news outlets" is a far cry from "our media."

You are missing the forest for the trees.

Aside from the question of what you mean by "fair," and the fact that I don't think anyone should have to pay for health care,

I don't understand why are you protesting my initial point.

Yes it is.

Thanks, I guess. But this topic is straying far and away from my original OP.

Not at all. Just trying to keep things in perspective.

Noted, thanks.

 

[Skwim]

I don't understand why are you protesting my initial point.

Your initial point was ". . . our healthcare system is a rip off," indicating that all agencies connected with our health care system, governmental and private, are making undue profits at our expense. While I'm certain some, maybe even many are, not all of them do. I'm "protesting" your generalization.


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[Quetzal]

I'm "protesting" your generalization.

And you have done so with with incredible effectiveness!

 

[Kirran]

Your initial point was ". . . our healthcare system is a rip off," indicating that all agencies connected with our health care system, governmental and private, are making undue profits at our expense. While I'm certain some, maybe even many are, not all of them do. I'm "protesting" your generalization.

I think it was more about being overall a rip off, rather than totally a rip off in every division and organisation and program.

 

[Quetzal]

I think it was more about being overall a rip off, rather than totally a rip off in every division and organisation and program.

Today, I have learned that with Skwim that when I share anecdotes and thoughts, I need to be overly specific or else he has a tendency to call foul.

 

[Kirran]

Today, I have learned that with Skwim that when I share anecdotes and thoughts, I need to be overly specific or else he has a tendency to call foul.

Got your back brother.