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Europeans on the Americans

Skwim

Veteran Member
Caution!
Some posters here are dedicated to making
atheists appear smug & sanctimonious.
You mean like some make themselves appear?

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Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
You mean like some make themselves appear?

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I really don't get you. You spend multiple posts giving me a run around about generalizations and taking the high road regarding specifics, then you post this. :confused:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
One of those "Do as I say, not as I do" deals. ;)
Trivia time!
I actually know the source of that phrase.
It's a variation on.....
Probe as I say!
Not as I probe!

The exclamation marks in this case aren't due to shouting,
but rather to indicate that deep stentorian Morbo-like voice.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
We want to make fun of it and change it just as much as you do. ;)
People say they want change, but anymore I don't believe it. Change would be all these people wanting change voting third party and obliterating the Dem/Rep stranglehold over the nation. But, for all this talk of change, I'll be surprised if Johnson and Stein get even 25% of the vote combined. If either one manages to win, then I'll believe people actually want change.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
I have tried real hard to resist this, but I have all I can stands and I can't stands no more

Every time I see the title of this thread

Europeans on the Americans

All I can think of, every single time, is why are Europeans on the Americans and why don't the get the heck off and get on someone else....There...I feel better now...I'm done...please carry on
 

Phil25

Active Member
I think most Brits have travelled abroad, yet IIRC less than 50% of US citizens have ever left the country. Appreciation of other cultures, languages, customs, etc. is thus largely gleamed from stereotypes on the telly.
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To be fair, this has to do with how just large America is. We have everything from tundra to desert to mountains to tropical rainforests in the same country. Most Europeans just have to travel a few hundred miles, if even that, to reach the next country while here Texas alone stretches over 750 miles. In this sense European countries are comparable to US states and most Americans have travelled outside their home states.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
To be fair, this has to do with how just large America is. We have everything from tundra to desert to mountains to tropical rainforests in the same country. Most Europeans just have to travel a few hundred miles, if even that, to reach the next country while here Texas alone stretches over 750 miles. In this sense European countries are comparable to US states and most Americans have travelled outside their home states.
Well put.

People outside of the US should also take into consideration the vast difference in culture throughout the different regions here. West Coast culture differs greatly from East Coast culture, and then you have Southern culture, etc. Sometimes going to a different state is a lot like visiting a different country depending where you go.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
The other night, I was listening to a stream online while doing other things. The host was from Europe and he made a comment: "I find it interesting, Americans. Americans are like the third grade bully. You try to understand things without any knowledge about it and then get angry when others question you about it." He was referring to politics and our politicians. I would like to take a moment to clear the air because I do not think his opinion is isolated to himself. If you are from outside of the US and you have a critical thought regarding our politics, politicians, media, whatever; please don't apply that to our populace as a whole.
It sure seems like there's a large group people outside of the US view themselves as culturally and morally superior to Americans, unfortunately. Just based on my own experiences abroad, people don't seem to realize that the US is a lot more than just New York, California and Texas. A lot of the things they get mad at, many of us also get mad at, but that's seems to get lost in translation.

America is a very big place with a very large number of people living here, and we are hugely diverse. I hope people won't judge us only on whatever they put on television.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
To be fair, this has to do with how just large America is. We have everything from tundra to desert to mountains to tropical rainforests in the same country. Most Europeans just have to travel a few hundred miles, if even that, to reach the next country while here Texas alone stretches over 750 miles. In this sense European countries are comparable to US states and most Americans have travelled outside their home states.
Although I agree to a point, the main issue I was trying to make relates to culture. US citizens, because they don't travel abroad do not experience the differing culture of foreign countries.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You really are a human and not an animal, how's that for reality. What's so hard about that?
Humans are animals.
To be fair, this has to do with how just large America is. We have everything from tundra to desert to mountains to tropical rainforests in the same country. Most Europeans just have to travel a few hundred miles, if even that, to reach the next country while here Texas alone stretches over 750 miles. In this sense European countries are comparable to US states and most Americans have travelled outside their home states.
As much as I've traveled around America, I could have easily made it around Europe.
 

GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member
An interesting indication of the differences can be seen by reading the definitions in the political section of this board, that were written by a USian.

"Socialist: Subscribing to the ideas of public ownership of production … such as Social Democratic Party of Germany." But they aren't committed to public ownership!

"Conservative: Policies often include support for limited government … restrictions on abortion, same-sex marriage, social welfare … such as The Conservative Party (UK)" But (and I speak as a Conservative) we aren't in favour of any of those positions, and it was we who introduced same-sex marriage, for instance.

It's clear that terms like "socialist", "liberal", and "conservative" mean very different things in Europe and the USA.

Another obvious difference is religion. e.g.
Evangelicals: 26% USA, 3% UK
Other Protestant: 25% USA, 31% UK
Catholics: 24% USA, 8% UK
That's going to make for a major difference in attitudes.

Then there's the rural nature of the USA. The only states with the same population density as England are Rhode Island and New Jersey. We have 4x the density of California and 10x that of Texas. I suspect that people who live in small towns will differ from those who live in or near cities as we do.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Then there's the rural nature of the USA. The only states with the same population density as England are Rhode Island and New Jersey. We have 4x the density of California and 10x that of Texas. I suspect that people who live in small towns will differ from those who live in or near cities as we do.
There's indeed a big difference. Our rural areas tend to be very Conservative (meaning letting the Bible guide legislation, tax cuts across the board, hacking at social spending across the board, less government regulation and the idea of running the state like a business), whereas the bigger cities are often more Liberal (more personal freedoms, progressive tax laws, government intervention to protect rights and the environment, and more social spending). Indiana, for example, saw governor Mike Pence (Trump's running mate) sign into law a bill that protected discrimination so long as it was done with a "sincerely held religious belief," but the capitol city, Indianapolis (13th largest city in America) has municipal laws protecting homosexuals and transgender individuals.
 
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