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Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It's far above my pay grade to confirm or dispute climate models.
But looking at the simple feedback mechanism of lower solar albedo due to definite
polar ice loss, I expect change will be fast enuf to create political strife in my lifetime.
I've been recommending solutions which address AGW indirectly, while attacking
more certain problems....
- Reduce pollution by energy conservation.
- Curb population growth.

Well, it doesn't take much to make things dangerous for coastal areas. I say anywhere than is < 1m above the sea level is in constant threat, as just a really unusual year could spell disaster. (Like New Orleans after Katrina, etc.)

I always look at any possible climate change realistically -- there is not much individuals can do to curb the issue but pollutants are pretty easy to control via recovery mechanisms (if they are deployed), or just using alternatives that don't generate them. Admittedly, this is where capitalism is at odds with doing-the-right-thing many times.

As far as population growth, the problem is actually not in the west - we're facing population decreases in many areas. Until the middle east, and most of Africa even start to do some birth control it's gonna be ongoing.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
In my opinion, "everybody" knows -- at least deep down most people know -- that Trump will most likely be a disaster as a president, but hope, partisanship, a lack of discernment, etc obscure the truth for many.

If you disagree with this, I'd be curious to know what you base your optimism on? What do you see in Trump that indicates to you he'd be at least a mediocre president, and not an outright disaster?


Have to agree with most that his cabinet picks were not good. Before I declare all hell, I'll just give him a year or so before I make further judgments. Not even sure if I'll even last that long given some of his current public goals.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
I always look at any possible climate change realistically -- there is not much individuals can do to curb the issue but pollutants are pretty easy to control via recovery mechanisms (if they are deployed), or just using alternatives that don't generate them. Admittedly, this is where capitalism is at odds with doing-the-right-thing many times.
You're ignoring my questions. There is plenty we can do to curb CO2 output. But crooked corporations don't want to invest or spend money on technologies to limit their output. It's all about profits to them. It also doesn't help that they lie about climate change. And use RW media to spread the lie
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
In my opinion, "everybody" knows -- at least deep down most people know -- that Trump will most likely be a disaster as a president, but hope, partisanship, a lack of discernment, etc obscure the truth for many.

If you disagree with this, I'd be curious to know what you base your optimism on? What do you see in Trump that indicates to you he'd be at least a mediocre president, and not an outright disaster?

I think he'll be a disaster as the head of the Executive branch for however long that lasts, but I could see him butting heads with the mainstream Republicans in the house and senate to the point that very little new legislation gets passed.

I also see impeachment as a real possibility. It seems like he hasn't done anything to stop himself running afoul of the emoluments clause - at the very least - and I think the Republican establishment would see Pence as acceptable, so I think that the only thing saving Trump from impeachment is the goodwill of Congress... and I wouldn't count on that lasting very long.

IOW, I think the Trump Presidency will be mostly loud, ineffectual, and short, and the outright disaster will happen under President Pence carrying the support of Congress.
 
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