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EVERYONE PLEASE WEIGH IN: If what you believed was wrong, would you want to know?

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
Ignorance is bliss. Less educated people usually are more happy. The question is if you value happiness over truth. I don't. I'd take the red pill.

Atheist, right?

So ummm, if it turned out the red pill was theism or pantheism would you still take it? Cuz most people say they are willing, but when the time comes they're not.

As for me, I've already been red pilled at least twice (once after I was marginally theist but realized exactly what it meant to have a personal relationship with Jesus, again when I realized that a round Earth repeatedly doesn't make sense but the Earth probably isn't conventionally flat either).
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I don't view right or wrong as related that much to religious belief. It is just belief. Any particular belief will be perceived as right by some and wrong by others ... that is if those people are in the state of mind where they see things in terms of right or wrong. So it's like a favorite colour, or what style of clothing suits them. Right and wrong don't really come into play.

Of course there is right and wrong in more mundane areas of life, like if some worker puts the wrong price on an item, or a parts guy sends you the wrong parts for a car.

But in religion, for me it's best to stay out of the right/wrong world of opposites.

Of course, the OP is just an obvious set up, and a fairly old and used one at that. Need some new tricks?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I totally would want to know, ignorance is not bliss.

I'm pretty sure everything I believe is wrong. I see my beliefs more for entertainment/distractions. Doesn't really matter if they are wrong.

If I knew they were wrong, then of course I'd change them, but I suspect there will remain a lot of unanswered questions when I die.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
I totally would want to know, ignorance is not bliss.

If I could be convinced, then yes. But that is not something that anyone would necessarily know.

Belief in the form of a hope, an unrealized future promise, is hard to disprove. Facts are easier to disprove with better established facts.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Atheist, right?
Not exactly. I'm also an atheists (in the colloquial meaning) but that is only a secondary result of my Agnosticism (Huxley's definition).
So ummm, if it turned out the red pill was theism or pantheism would you still take it? Cuz most people say they are willing, but when the time comes they're not.
I don't know exactly what would make me a theist or deist but I can tell you what would make me stop to be an Agnostic.
When the believers come to a consensus what exactly a god is and how to worship or at least to respect the others form of worship. I don't expect that to happen in my lifetime - and I plan to get very old.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I totally would want to know, ignorance is not bliss.
What we believe and what is the actual truth would often be two different things until we realize the next level of wisdom, so if we all could understand and realize the full truth, that would, of course, be the best for humanity :)

Spiritual teaching is the "recipe" to find the truth, but what recipe we follow will lead toward truth. For a Christian the bible is a recipe to the truth, for Hindu it is Hindu teaching. But if the recipe has been altered it can not serve as true teaching anymore. and unfortunately, this has happened to many religious teachings
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Here's what I find especially ironic about the OP.

There are many different reasons people have for protecting their beliefs from facts and data that contradicts their beliefs. So many, they can be put into general categories.

Religion is the single biggest category.

Nationalism is a close second. Racial/ethnic bigotry is way up there, along with gender bigotry. Then there's greed.

Put them together and you've got the human situation.

But religion is the biggy.
Tom
 
I know everything I believe is wrong or better limited because my limited intellect cannot perceive Truth in all its glory. An ant cannot understand the intellect of a human being.
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I totally would want to know, ignorance is not bliss.


Yes, I would want to know and certainly appreciate it-even if it embarrassed me. John 17:3 mentions the importance to taking in knowledge about God. Consider these scriptures that counsels about obtaining/having accurate knowledge. Romans 1:28; 10:2; Philippians 1:9; Colossians 1:9; 3:10; 1 Timothy 2:4; 2 Timothy 2:25; 3:7; 2 Peter 2:20.
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
As someone raised in a secular society, to an atheist family of academics, coming into personal faith in my late 20’s/early 30’s meant doing a complete 360° in life.

It was a shock to the system, there’s no denying it. And it took years for my loved ones and I to adapt to the “new me”, but there’s really no alternative, because once your perspective on reality drastically changes, you cannot in fact pretend that it hasn’t.


Humbly
Hermit
 
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