Evidence for a Creator God Who Likes Creating Things

[ratiocinator]

Variety is partially explainable, I'm focussed on the unexplained part, here.

What unexplained part? And the mere existence of something unexplained doesn't make your preferred myth any more believable. Anybody can make up a (just-so) story to 'explain' an unknown and there are countless such stories. What you need to do is provide some direct logical or evidential connection to your preferred deity.

 

[ChristineM]

had to look that up.
I don't think that entropy can explain the variety of landscapes.

It actually goes far deeper than landscapes, it encompasses all life. Without entropy live could not have developed. And with entropy there is only a very narrow (in universe terms) window in which life can develop and survive.

Try this
Why did life emerge?
However ir seems Arxiv has a problem at the time of posting, site unavailable so maybe later

And the reason for variety is partly given ny @SalixIncendium in post #11. Add to that climat, latitude, human intervention,

 

[exchemist]

a variety of things is not a feeling, Exchemist.
It's an objective phenomenon that exists.

Sure but a variety of things is predicted by natural science, as a consequence of the operation of the laws of nature. It's not evidence of a creator.

 

[blü 2]

In my opinion there exists great evidence for a Creator God who loves creating things:
the great variety of life and landscapes on earth.
Landscapes keep changing and life can be found in all its forms.

[He]'s more efficient that you give [him] credit for ─ [he] noticed evolution would do all the work, so [he]'s gone to [his] club.

 

[Spirit of Light]

In my opinion there exists great evidence for a Creator God who loves creating things:
the great variety of life and landscapes on earth.
Landscapes keep changing and life can be found in all its forms.

Everywhere there is sign of God and creation

 

[ratiocinator]

Everywhere there is sign of God and creation

Such as where (without assuming your conclusion)?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

It actually goes far deeper than landscapes, it encompasses all life. Without entropy live could not have developed. And with entropy there is only a very narrow (in universe terms) window in which life can develop and survive.

Try this
Why did life emerge?
However ir seems Arxiv has a problem at the time of posting, site unavailable so maybe later

And the reason for variety is partly given ny @SalixIncendium in post #11. Add to that climat, latitude, human intervention,

So taking naturalism as Evidence. There is no absolute evidence and naturalism is a cognitive belief system just like a creator god.
So ChristineM, as a standard non-religious person I can do beliefs without god and what not. But I can't do it without beliefs at all. And neither can you. There is no strong absolute truth, proof or evidence. It is in practice different subjective beliefs system. That goes for you, me and everybody else. Learn to be as skeptical of your own thinking as you are with everybody else's.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Such as where (without assuming your conclusion)?

Anywhere i look i see God. Even in the painful places or in war. The suffering humans experience is teaching of what happens when we walk away from God.

 

[viole]

In my opinion there exists great evidence for a Creator God who loves creating things:
the great variety of life and landscapes on earth.
Landscapes keep changing and life can be found in all its forms.

May I suggest that He stops being too creative with things like viruses and such?

Ciao

- viole

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

May I suggest that He stops being too creative with things like viruses and such?

Ciao

- viole

Unless He is not a nice god. That is not given.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

In my opinion there exists great evidence for a Creator God who loves creating things:
the great variety of life and landscapes on earth.
Landscapes keep changing and life can be found in all its forms.

Geological activity and biological evolution.

Where's god in these processes?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

a musician who really likes to create different pieces of music... creates much.
What he creates is a reflection of how he is as a person...
The music counts as evidence for a musician who likes his art.
I see an analogy to God here.

How on earth is music analogous to a mountain region????

 

[SalixIncendium]

How on earth is music analogous to a mountain region????

Well, there's this...

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

the variety of landscapes is the evidence

No. The variety of landscapes is the data you bring forward for which you propose an explanation as to how it came about (that explanation being "god dun it").

You require evidence for attributing this origin to your claimed creator. The landscapes existing is only evidence of the landscapes existing - it is by no means evidence of how they came about.

There is no necessity for landscapes in itself to have a great abundance of different forms.

Geological activity necessarily and inevitably will produce a great a variety of landscapes.




For example:

Here's a landscape from Iceland.
The mountainous regions are volcanic in nature. The mountains thus formed through volcanic activity.
The black landscape in the foreground is the result of volcanic eruption.

No gods here. Just volcano's.


Plate tectonics, erosion by wind and water, glaciers and breaking up of natural ice dams, river formations, tectonic lift, weather,..... Those are the things that shape the land.

What gods?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Variety is partially explainable already, I'm focussed on the unexplained part, here.

So, you're just building an argument from ignorance then?


ps: what "unexplained" part?

 

[epronovost]

I see an analogy to God here.

An analogy isn't evidence nor is it a proof or an argument for anything.

 

[ratiocinator]

Anywhere i look i see God. Even in the painful places or in war. The suffering humans experience is teaching of what happens when we walk away from God.

That's a belief (and rather an odd one since suffering happens to people who believe in god(s) too). Do you have any evidence or arguments?

 

[Spirit of Light]

That's a belief (and rather an odd one since suffering happens to people who believe in god(s) too). Do you have any evidence or arguments?

I go through suffering every day

 

[ratiocinator]

I go through suffering every day

I'm sorry to hear that but I don't get what your point is.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I'm sorry to hear that but I don't get what your point is.

The point is to say, the suffering comes from my past "sins" or wrongdoing.
So i know that when i stop doing wrong, and do 8nøy Gods wish, then all my suffering will end too