Evidence For And Against Evolution

[YoursTrue]

Engineering.

Lol ok again. (whatever you say must be truth unless of course it changes.)

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ok. You believe in myths and conjectures taught as truth but which keep changing.

Don't be silly. Believing in myths is your flaw and you should know that. I see that you are still having trouble with the Ninth Commandment. Why do you have so much trouble with such a simple order from your god?

 

[YoursTrue]

Engineering.

Here's another idea. (And some say yes, some say no.)
Humans on Verge of Causing 6th Great Mass Extinction
Maybe time to change, maybe not. Maybe time to figure out how to live on Mars pumping oxygen from the earth. Hmmm.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lol ok again. (whatever you say must be truth unless of course it changes.)

No one, well except for perhaps you, is saying that the truth changes. You merely need a hell of a lot of STEM education. You are asking elementary school kid questions as if they are a refutation of some sort.

 

[YoursTrue]

Here's another idea. (And some say yes, some say no.)
Humans on Verge of Causing 6th Great Mass Extinction
Maybe time to change, maybe not. Maybe time to figure out how to live on Mars pumping oxygen from the earth. Hmmm.

 

[YoursTrue]

No one, well except for perhaps you, is saying that the truth changes. You merely need a hell of a lot of STEM education. You are asking elementary school kid questions as if they are a refutation of some sort.

So while this may be an elementary grade question, surely you as the advanced teacher should simply answer. Does the human embryo go through every form of evolution from whatever the earliest form is in the womb, to the latest "evolutionary" form, which is, of course, the human?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Here's another idea. (And some say yes, some say no.)
Humans on Verge of Causing 6th Great Mass Extinction
Maybe time to change, maybe not. Maybe time to figure out how to live on Mars pumping oxygen from the earth. Hmmm.

Off topic. Why bring up these topics? Your approach appears to be rather strange a sort of "I don't understand, therefore evolution is wrong." That is not a rational approach.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So while this may be an elementary grade question, surely you as the advanced teacher should simply answer. Does the human embryo go through every form of evolution from whatever the earliest form is in the womb, to the latest "evolutionary" form, which is, of course, the human?

Already answered too many times. Go back through the thread and you will find the answer.

I will make you a deal. If you learn the basics of science, what is the scientific method, and what is evidence, and I will answer any questions. If all you have are dishonest debating techniques then I will only continue to correct you. And I ran across this interesting and true quote today:

" There is literally more fossil evidence that humans evolved from non-humans than there is fossil evidence that Tyrannosaurus rex is a thing."

Evolution 101: The Missing Link FAQ

Do you think that you can put aside your fear of reality long enough to learn the scientific method and what is and what is not evidence?

 

[YoursTrue]

No one, well except for perhaps you, is saying that the truth changes. You merely need a hell of a lot of STEM education. You are asking elementary school kid questions as if they are a refutation of some sort.

So, excuse me, how many planets are taught there are in the Solar System these days? How many planets were taught there are a few decades ago?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2013-05-planets-solar.amp

 

[YoursTrue]

Off topic. Why bring up these topics? Your approach appears to be rather strange a sort of "I don't understand, therefore evolution is wrong." That is not a rational approach.

it should be pretty easy for you to stand up for truth as fact or facts changing to make a new truth. That is the question. Does the human embryo go through all stages of evolution from earliest to latest in the womb? Easy peasy answer or should be.

 

[YoursTrue]

Already answered too many times. Go back through the thread and you will find the answer.

I will make you a deal. If you learn the basics of science, what is the scientific method, and what is evidence, and I will answer any questions. If all you have are dishonest debating techniques then I will only continue to correct you. And I ran across this interesting and true quote today:

" There is literally more fossil evidence that humans evolved from non-humans than there is fossil evidence that Tyrannosaurus rex is a thing."

Evolution 101: The Missing Link FAQ

Do you think that you can put aside your fear of reality long enough to learn the scientific method and what is and what is not evidence?

I'm learning from you. That genes are similar in dinosaurs and humans does not prove evolution. It proves or provides evidence as you call it, that there are similar genes.

 

[gnostic]

Ok let's say that angry people inherit anger making genes.

Look, YoursTrue, I am neither a biologist, nor a psychologist. So, I don’t know if I can address some of your points, but I do know that your astronauts’ blood flows or circulation isn’t about Evolution.

Now unless NASA start allowing people having children and grandchildren, being born onboard of space station, and they grow up being astronauts themselves, then it have nothing to do with genetics, let alone involving Evolution.

You are forgetting that Evolution involved changes or adaptions from population, not individual changes. Basic effects of changes within family or families, would only involved genetics alone, but if changes are noted by whole population, then we could might say it is Evolution.

Now unless you find astronauts returning starting families, where their children start showing the same odd physiological conditions as their parents, then this isn’t brought about genetically.

But back to your point about “anger” in the post.

Evolution is about changes in biological traits (that developed in population, not among individuals), not emotional traits or personality. Personality, emotion and characters are not biological traits, these are related to social or cultural interactions.

And though a child may seem to inherit one or both parents’ emotional or personality traits, it may be due to being taught through upbringing or through nurturing.

Since your example is just one line sentence, there is not much details. So there are really not much I can do with your example.

What would happen if you were talking about angry father who has 5 sons, for instance. And let say, only 1 son has anger problem. If the other 4 sons don’t share the same behavioral of their angry brother, then is more likely upbringing, not genetics.

But as I said earlier I am not a psychologist, nor a biologist, so I could be wrong about this. From my amateur view on your example, I don’t think behavioral or social traits would be imprinted into your genes or DNA, but as I said, I could be wrong.

You are better off, asking someone who have more knowledge or experiences about psychology.

 

[gnostic]

I'm learning from you. That genes are similar in dinosaurs and humans does not prove evolution. It proves or provides evidence as you call it, that there are similar genes.

Who said anything about humans evolving from dinosaurs?

You do realize humans are mammals, don’t you?

Certain mammal physical traits are found in the Permian era, among the synapsids clade, so they (mammals) actually predated the archosaurs and dinosaurs of the Triassic era. So the mammals developed separately from the dinosaurs, but didn’t dominate the lands until the dinosaurs died out.

Birds evolved from the avian-type dinosaurs, not mammals.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So, excuse me, how many planets are taught there are in the Solar System these days? How many planets were taught there are a few decades ago?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2013-05-planets-solar.amp

Being a literalist means that one is almost always wrong.

 

[Subduction Zone]

it should be pretty easy for you to stand up for truth as fact or facts changing to make a new truth. That is the question. Does the human embryo go through all stages of evolution from earliest to latest in the womb? Easy peasy answer or should be.

Unlike you I am for the truth. As you show by your posts you believe in a lying God. A fact that should bother you. Since you believe that God lies how do you know when you can trust him?

And your question was answered countless times. Now you want something without paying for it. Not a moral move on your part.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm learning from you. That genes are similar in dinosaurs and humans does not prove evolution. It proves or provides evidence as you call it, that there are similar genes.

No, you really are not. At best you are only learning how to be dishonest. How about trying to learn how to be honest? I know that it scares you, but there are countless Christians, probably most, that do not believe in a lying God.

 

[YoursTrue]

Who said anything about humans evolving from dinosaurs?

You do realize humans are mammals, don’t you?

Certain mammal physical traits are found in the Permian era, among the synapsids clade, so they (mammals) actually predated the archosaurs and dinosaurs of the Triassic era. So the mammals developed separately from the dinosaurs, but didn’t dominate the lands until the dinosaurs died out.

Birds evolved from the avian-type dinosaurs, not mammals.

So do you believe that the human embryo goes through the various stages of evolution from those beings humans are said to evolve from in the womb? Or -- is the human embryo always human without passing through any evolutionary earlier stages? What do you think? In other words, does the human embryo pass through stages of earlier mammals until it becomes a full blown human embryo?

 

[YoursTrue]

No, you really are not. At best you are only learning how to be dishonest. How about trying to learn how to be honest? I know that it scares you, but there are countless Christians, probably most, that do not believe in a lying God.

Again -- and you are so reluctant to provide information or a decent answer.
Does the human embryo start out exclusively and entirely as a human embryo without going through the various stages said to be in the evolutionary progression from whatever is the earliest to the latest? (in other words -- recapitulation?) I don't believe you will answer. But thanks. You HAVE taught me a lot.

 

[YoursTrue]

No, you really are not. At best you are only learning how to be dishonest. How about trying to learn how to be honest? I know that it scares you, but there are countless Christians, probably most, that do not believe in a lying God.

So the fact that many genes are similar in humans and bonobos, according to you and other evolutionists, means that humans evolved from "close relatives" or something like that, right, because they still don't really know which "relative" it is, do they. OR -- do they? Bonobos and humans still can't interbreed, can they? But scientists surmise that Neanderthals and some other population of humanoids did interbreed, don't they? But doubtful if bonobos and Neanderthals did. Unless you and other evolutionists think so because of similar genes between the two.

 

[YoursTrue]

Unlike you I am for the truth. As you show by your posts you believe in a lying God. A fact that should bother you. Since you believe that God lies how do you know when you can trust him?

And your question was answered countless times. Now you want something without paying for it. Not a moral move on your part.

Schoolchildren and adults alike were taught that there were NINE PLANETS in the solar system just a few years ago. That was TRUTH for them. Now it's not truth, is it? Or is it? I'd love to hear your explanation about this.