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Evidence For And Against Evolution

Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
dad said:
So it requires something that you cannot provide. Post one single piece of evidence, don't worry about 'concept'.
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The evidence is that you have an extra bone at the end of your spine but no tail. Basically we (you or me) are tail-less monkeys, like apes and chimps. We lost the tail sometimes in the Miocene era (20-5 million year ago, since Nacholapithecus). Nacholapithecus - Wikipedia
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Mestemia said:
You have not presented a single thing other than your jumping up and down with your fingers in your ears yelling "la la la"....
So if that is all it takes for you to claim victory, you make the Pigeon Chess crowd look like experts in their field.
And you are overly proud of it to boot.....
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I am looking for evidence for the theory that life is here because of evolving (TOE) You need to present one single piece of evidence that is not faith based.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Aupmanyav said:
The evidence is that you have an extra bone at the end of your spine but no tail. Basically we (you or me) are tail-less monkeys, like apes and chimps. We lost the tail sometimes in the Miocene era (20-5 million year ago, since Nacholapithecus). Nacholapithecus - Wikipedia
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Seriously? OK. So because man adapted to no longer need a certain bone you think this means you share ancestors with the flatworm??! Sorry, no connection. Can you prove that this bone had to have been a tail in the past? Even if you could (ha) and man or some men used to have a tail, that does not mean we were monkeys. Obviously.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Subduction Zone said:
Please do not make false statements and use them as personal attacks. That is against the rules here. So is trolling. I gave you a reasonable condition.

Why are you so afraid to learn what is and what is not evidence? You seem to know that learning this would mean that you would know that your claims were false. It would mean that to make your claims you would have to openly lie. The excuse of ignorance would no longer work.
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The God's honest truth that you verify over and over is that you cannot provide even one single piece of evidence that is not faith based. Either do it or remain dangling in the wind to dry.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
dad said:
The God's honest truth that you verify over and over is that you cannot provide even one single piece of evidence that is not faith based. Either do it or remain dangling in the wind to dry.
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Nope, that is a false claim on your part. It appears that you are ignorant of the concept of evidence. In the sciences the concept of evidence is very well defined. Scientists had to because of irrational people that would deny evidence.

To help you this is the definition of scientific evidence:

Scientific evidence is evidence that serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis.

Scientific evidence - Wikipedia

There are countless other sites that give the same definition.

So whenever someone gives you a piece of information you only need to ask and answer two questions. If the answer is "yes" to both questions then like it or not the information is "scientific evidence". Scientists were forced to come up with a well defined term because some people are incredibly dishonest when the evidence tells them that they are wrong.

That is an extremely fair definition as well. Unfortunately for you it means that there is scientific evidence for evolution and none for creationism.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Here is an image for dad:

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Now you only have to ask two questions. I will provide the answers for you:

Do the bones in this image support the theory of evolution?

Yes, they do. It is the sort of evidence scientists would expect to see if the theory was correct.

Is the theory testable?

Yes it is. There are many tests that could falsify it. A failure of phylogeny for example would do so.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Subduction Zone said:
Nope, that is a false claim on your part. It appears that you are ignorant of the concept of evidence. In the sciences the concept of evidence is very well defined. Scientists had to because of irrational people that would deny evidence.

To help you this is the definition of scientific evidence:

Scientific evidence is evidence that serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis.

Scientific evidence - Wikipedia

There are countless other sites that give the same definition.

So whenever someone gives you a piece of information you only need to ask and answer two questions. If the answer is "yes" to both questions then like it or not the information is "scientific evidence". Scientists were forced to come up with a well defined term because some people are incredibly dishonest when the evidence tells them that they are wrong.

That is an extremely fair definition as well. Unfortunately for you it means that there is scientific evidence for evolution and none for creationism.
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Stop trying to define it and post a single piece of evidence. Ha. Be honest
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
dad said:
I am looking for evidence for the theory that life is here because of evolving (TOE) You need to present one single piece of evidence that is not faith based.
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I am not expecting you to put your money where your mouth is.
I mean it has been what, three years, and you have yet to do so.
You are all about the talk, but have less than zero walk.
 
Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
dad said:
Seriously? OK. So because man adapted to no longer need a certain bone you think this means you share ancestors with the flatworm??! Sorry, no connection. Can you prove that this bone had to have been a tail in the past? Even if you could (ha) and man or some men used to have a tail, that does not mean we were monkeys. Obviously.
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Well, you carry the proof with you all the time. The proof is there at the bottom, even if we disregard the appendix which shows that we were once herbivorous.
Valjean said:
That the Earth's not a sphere, but a flat disk.
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I thought earth had four corners. Proverbs "nowhere in the four corners of the world", etc.
Revelation 7:1 : "And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree."
 
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Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
dad said:
No. I see none. No link. No single piece of evidence. Just hot air.
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I posted an image. Do you need a link? I can provide one. And yes, to the uneducated complex ideas may seem like "hot air". That is why an explanation was included. I am not sure if I can simplify the idea to an elementary level of education for you.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Subduction Zone said:
I posted an image. Do you need a link? I can provide one. And yes, to the uneducated complex ideas may seem like "hot air". That is why an explanation was included. I am not sure if I can simplify the idea to an elementary level of education for you.
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You posted a pic? Try to find some evidence then post it.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
dad said:
The point you offer needs to be clear. What single piece of evidence can you offer here and now?
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It was clear. Go back, read the post and its explanation and then ask questions. Plus remember, you have no grounds to demand evidence since you refuse to learn what is and what is not evidence. I gave evidence. It is not my problem if someone does not understand it.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Aupmanyav said:
Perhaps what Dad means is that we find him his lost tail. That may be the proof that he would accept.
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If some men did have tails, big deal. That did not make them monkeys. I suspect that in the different former nature the extra bones may have had some use, maybe you never even thought of. How would we knoow that some folks did not get a mark of Cain, some sort of mark all could see, as the bible says? Can we rule that out as the reason the extra bone is there? Ha
 
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