Evidence for Jesus' Resurrection

[Audie]

Went right over your head again, lol.

Why bother to have books about your so called ressurection?
Just perceive in unnatrually!

Did ya spiritually discern that there really really was a noahs ark?

Your answer should clinch the matter of you as a resesrcher.

 

[Spartan]

Why bother to have books about your so called ressurection?
Just perceive in unnatrually!

Did ya spiritually discern that there really really was a noahs ark?

Your answer should clinch the matter of you as a resesrcher.

LOL.

Ancient references to Noah's Ark, cited by the 1st century Jewish historian Josephus.

“However, the Armenians call this place (the resting place of Noah’s Ark) ‘The Place of Descent,’ for the ark being saved in that place, its remains are shewn there by the inhabitants to this day.”

“Now all the writers of barbarian histories make mention of this flood and of this ark; among whom is Berosus the Chaldean; for when he is describing the circumstances of the flood, he goes on thus: ‘It is said there is still some part of the ship in Armenia, at the mountain of the Cordyeans; and that some people carry off pieces of the bitumen, which they take away and use chiefly as amulets for the averting of mischiefs.’ Hieronymus the Egyptian, also, who wrote the Phoenician Antiquities, and Mnaseas, and a great many more, make mention of the same. Nay, Nicolaus of Damascus, in his ninety-sixth book, hath a particular relation about them, where he speaks thus: ‘There is a great mountain in Armenia, over Minyas, called Baris, upon which it is reported that many who fled at the time of the Deluge were saved; and that one who was carried in an ark came on shore upon the top of it; and that the remains of the timber were a great while preserved. This might be the man about whom Moses, the legislator of the Jews wrote.’”

"The remains of the Ark (of Noah) can be seen to this day in the Arabian mountains." - Theophilus., about 180 AD. Theophilus was the Bishop of Antioch. Source: Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs, by David Bercot, referencing the Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 2, pg. 117.

So go ahead - spin your web of follies and do your usual "Dr. No" routine.

 

[Riders]

The ossuaries article was intended as a comeback for those yo-yo's who claim there's no evidence for Jesus.

Thats not evidence for the resurrection of Jesus. It is evidence a Jesus lived and had followers, I do not dispute that at all. but its not evidence for the resurrection.

 

[Riders]

Yeah, where's the body? And why would the chief priests bribe the guards at the tomb to falsely claim the disciples stole the body?

The tomb was empty because Jesus was resurrected. Postmortem appearances to numerous individuals, including skeptics like James and Thomas, and even Saul / Paul (Road to Damascus) are hard to ignore.

The number of people in the Gospels, etc., who have to be lying or crazy in order for you to continue to be a non-believer, frankly, is what's hard to fathom.

No they would not have dragged his body out, he was left hanging on the cross like every other rebel messiah was. It was against the law for poor people to be buried in tombs. It was made up there was no bribe. They didn't care that much enough to drag out his body, why would they, it was just anther Messiah movement.

 

[Riders]

The spectacle is the sophomoric floundering of unbelievers such as yourselves who set new records for ignoring the truths and evidences for the historical Jesus. It's stunning.

If you were right all the scientists and historians and archaeologists would be Christian but they are not.

 

[Riders]

LOL.

Ancient references to Noah's Ark, cited by the 1st century Jewish historian Josephus.

“However, the Armenians call this place (the resting place of Noah’s Ark) ‘The Place of Descent,’ for the ark being saved in that place, its remains are shewn there by the inhabitants to this day.”

“Now all the writers of barbarian histories make mention of this flood and of this ark; among whom is Berosus the Chaldean; for when he is describing the circumstances of the flood, he goes on thus: ‘It is said there is still some part of the ship in Armenia, at the mountain of the Cordyeans; and that some people carry off pieces of the bitumen, which they take away and use chiefly as amulets for the averting of mischiefs.’ Hieronymus the Egyptian, also, who wrote the Phoenician Antiquities, and Mnaseas, and a great many more, make mention of the same. Nay, Nicolaus of Damascus, in his ninety-sixth book, hath a particular relation about them, where he speaks thus: ‘There is a great mountain in Armenia, over Minyas, called Baris, upon which it is reported that many who fled at the time of the Deluge were saved; and that one who was carried in an ark came on shore upon the top of it; and that the remains of the timber were a great while preserved. This might be the man about whom Moses, the legislator of the Jews wrote.’”

"The remains of the Ark (of Noah) can be seen to this day in the Arabian mountains." - Theophilus., about 180 AD. Theophilus was the Bishop of Antioch. Source: Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs, by David Bercot, referencing the Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 2, pg. 117.

So go ahead - spin your web of follies and do your usual "Dr. No" routine.

Noahs ark? Is this the right thread?

 

[Spartan]

Noahs ark? Is this the right thread?

Ask Audie - see post #81. I was responding to her.

 

[Audie]

LOL.

Ancient references to Noah's Ark, cited by the 1st century Jewish historian Josephus.

“However, the Armenians call this place (the resting place of Noah’s Ark) ‘The Place of Descent,’ for the ark being saved in that place, its remains are shewn there by the inhabitants to this day.”

“Now all the writers of barbarian histories make mention of this flood and of this ark; among whom is Berosus the Chaldean; for when he is describing the circumstances of the flood, he goes on thus: ‘It is said there is still some part of the ship in Armenia, at the mountain of the Cordyeans; and that some people carry off pieces of the bitumen, which they take away and use chiefly as amulets for the averting of mischiefs.’ Hieronymus the Egyptian, also, who wrote the Phoenician Antiquities, and Mnaseas, and a great many more, make mention of the same. Nay, Nicolaus of Damascus, in his ninety-sixth book, hath a particular relation about them, where he speaks thus: ‘There is a great mountain in Armenia, over Minyas, called Baris, upon which it is reported that many who fled at the time of the Deluge were saved; and that one who was carried in an ark came on shore upon the top of it; and that the remains of the timber were a great while preserved. This might be the man about whom Moses, the legislator of the Jews wrote.’”

"The remains of the Ark (of Noah) can be seen to this day in the Arabian mountains." - Theophilus., about 180 AD. Theophilus was the Bishop of Antioch. Source: Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs, by David Bercot, referencing the Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 2, pg. 117.

So go ahead - spin your web of follies and do your usual "Dr. No" routine.

Routine to the extent that I favour verifiable data and
dont respect confirmation bias.

Records of ark - finding thro the centuried. Marco Polo
commentef on a recent disvovrry.

And they just keep a -finding it to this day. Heck, you
can go and see it at Noahs Ark Park in Turkey.

I'd If you'd had the least trace of crefibilty before
this display, you sure do not now.

 

[Spartan]

he was left hanging on the cross like every other rebel messiah was.

Nice theory. VOID OF EVIDENCE.

It was against the law for poor people to be buried in tombs.

Show me the law. Besides, it was a pharisee who donated the tomb.

It was made up there was no bribe.

Prove it.

You yap a mile a minute with one claim after another that you hardly ever have any evidence for. So, show me all your evidences for what you claimed above.

 

[Spartan]

Routine to the extent that I favour verifiable data and
dont respect confirmation bias.

Records of ark - finding thro the centuried. Marco Polo
commentef on a recent disvovrry.

And they just keep a -finding it to this day. Heck, you
can go and see it at Noahs Ark Park in Turkey.

I'd If you'd hsd the least trace of crefibil8ty before
this display, you sure do not now.

Yada yada yada.

 

[Audie]

Noahs ark? Is this the right thread?

Any thread properly allows for demonsteation that someone
is not what they pretend to be.

 

[Audie]

Yada yada yada.

Louder, and keep them ears covered!!
Take no chances!

Some researcher.

 

[Riders]

Nice theory. VOID OF EVIDENCE.



Show me the law. Besides, it was a pharisee who donated the tomb.



Prove it.

You yap a mile a minute with one claim after another that you hardly ever have any evidence for. So, show me all your evidences for what you claimed above.

There is physical evidence that they left Messiahs on the cross. They found the dried out foot of a Messiah his name on the cross that was dated around the same time of Jesus. Do your history, historical records of that time do say only royalty were allowed to be buried in tombs.

 

[Riders]

Nice theory. VOID OF EVIDENCE.



Show me the law. Besides, it was a pharisee who donated the tomb.



Prove it.

You yap a mile a minute with one claim after another that you hardly ever have any evidence for. So, show me all your evidences for what you claimed above.

Of course I do not have to present evidence because You have not presented any evidence of your claim.Using the bible to prove the bible does not work.

 

[Audie]

Of course I do not have to present evidence because You have not presented any evidence of your claim.Using the bible to prove the bible does not work.

Heck, he proved noahs ark with the same sort of written records that
prove mermaids. It's rather savage of you to ask for better evidence
than that!

 

[Audie]

There is physical evidence that they left Messiahs on the cross. They found the dried out foot of a Messiah his name on the cross that was dated around the same time of Jesus. Do your history, historical records of that time do say only royalty were allowed to be buried in tombs.

The point of crucifiction as with leaving pirates hanging on display
in England -a caution to others. Left until there was nothing
left to see.

The special treatment for "Jesus" is out of keeping
with that, and unless other similar treatement can
be shown, lacks all credibility.

 

[Riders]

Nice theory. VOID OF EVIDENCE.



Show me the law. Besides, it was a pharisee who donated the tomb.



Prove it.

You yap a mile a minute with one claim after another that you hardly ever have any evidence for. So, show me all your evidences for what you claimed above.

I have evidence here from Wiki.This is what is said of rock cut tombs you claim Jesus was burried in.

Hundreds of rock-cut tombs were constructed in Israel in ancient times. They were cut into the rock, sometimes with elaborate facades and multiple burial chambers. Some are free-standing, but most are caves. Each tomb typically belonged to a single, wealthy family. Bodies were laid out on stone benches. After a generation, the bones were moved to a bone chamber or, later, into ossuaries and the benches used for new burials. Rock tombs were the province of the wealthy; the common people were buried in the ground.


Notice the words wealthy family, it was only for the wealthy.
The earliest Canaanite cut-rock cave tombs date from 3100–2900 BCE, but the custom had lapsed a millennium before the earliest Israelite tombs, which date to the 9th century BCE in Jerusalem. There are a great many Jewish tombs dating to the Second Temple period, and others in the late Roman or early Byzantine period

 

[Riders]

Yada yada yada.

Yada yada yada all the talk no proof.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

All that evidence in the OP and you're still in unbelief. That's remarkable..

"evidence"? You had exactly ZERO. You had heresay. You had speculation. You had pure pull-out-of-one's-backside GUESS.

But. Not one single document or artifact in support of "Jesus" or "Yeshua" character from the time he allegedly "lived".

Not so much as a broken pot with his name on it.

Interesting. We have the words of Plato. We have the diaries of Alexander the Great.

We have no words from the Desert "Messiah" who was supposedly "Larger Than Life".

Fascinating. With all your blovating, you could not even come up with a discarded christmas card...

By the way, your blurb:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?".

It's good, isn't it? Your feeble excuse of a god not only created Evil? It appears it cannot mange to stop a single stubbed toe...

... or worse-- your god cannot manage to convince a single rational person it's even real...

FYI, God puts an end to evil in the Book of Revelation. You should mention that little tidbit next time you put that out as something people should be impressed with.

Excuses, excuses. Did you know that Revelations was not even supposed to be in the bible?

I bet you didn't know that.... !

 

[dybmh]

ignoring the truths and evidences for the historical Jesus

Goal Post Shift.

The 10 installment blog-series intended to prove the resurrection, not historical Jesus.

Here's the OP, in case you forgot.

have all demanded evidence for the resurrection. Well here it is, in spades. Biblical and extra-biblical historical sources included. This is a 10 Part series - all links below.