Evidence of NOAH's FLOOD

[Subduction Zone]

Again, if that were true, the Israelites would have been derided as liars, the Bible would have been scorned by its contemporaries, and it never would have achieved the fame it has! (It is everywhere; which is what you’d expect if Jehovah God’s power was indeed behind it.)

You must ascribe some very dark motives to its authors.

What makes you think that that was not the case? Just as the Hebrews derided the imaginary gods of their rivals they almost certainly derided the imaginary god of the Hebrews.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

No, Jesus would have known that the flood was a myth. Those words were misremembered by subsequent Jewish writers who had an agenda.

Now think about what you’re ultimately claiming: that God is not able to control the content of His Word.

Some wording has been altered, in support of faulty theology, but it’s very little. But such altering is quickly discovered through deep examination of multiple texts…. And context.

And Matthew‘s gospel, which includes Jesus’ words I quoted, was no friend to the prevailing Jewish thought of the time. They would have had no access to alter the content.

Best wishes, my cousin.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Do the Himalayas endure a lot of weathering! You bet they do!
If what you said above were true, we would not see the pristine, distinct & sharp features we find on & near their peaks… experiencing 60 million years of erosion, they’d be rounded stumps, at least way more rounded than what we see!

Where did you get that idea from? I need to remind you that you have no understanding of geology at all. Or, even of the concept of evidence.

Why are creationists always so afraid to learn what is and want is not evidence and why. It is almost as if they know that they are wrong.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Now think about what you’re ultimately claiming: that God is not able to control the content of His Word.

Some wording has been altered, in support of faulty theology, but it’s very little. But such altering is quickly discovered through deep examination of multiple texts…. And context.

And Matthew‘s gospel, which includes Jesus’ words I quoted, was no friend to the prevailing Jewish thought of the time. They would have had no access to alter the content.

I would say that that is better than what you do. You claim that God is a liar. But you do not understand how you do that.

 

[Colt]

Do the Himalayas endure a lot of weathering! You bet they do!
If what you said above were true, we would not see the pristine, distinct & sharp features we find on & near their peaks… experiencing 60 million years of erosion, they’d be rounded stumps, at least way more rounded than what we see!

Because the Himalayas are still rising.

“The Himalayas continue to rise more than 1 cm a year -- a growth rate of 10 km in a million years! If that is so, why aren't the Himalayas even higher? Scientists believe that the Eurasian Plate may now be stretching out rather than thrusting up, and such stretching would result in some subsidence due to gravity.”

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Because the Himalayas are still rising.

No problem with that!

 

[Colt]

No problem with that!

In terms of God controlling his word, Moses smashed the stone tablets that God supposedly wrote with his own finger!

 

[Subduction Zone]

No problem with that!

Actually it is a huge problem for you. The erosion is not down so much as it is back. The front edge has been eroding but the continent keeps moving north. To understand this you have to think three dimensionally.

 

[Subduction Zone]

In terms of God controlling his word, Moses smashed the stone tablets that God supposedly wrote with his own finger!

And the new ones that replaced them had an almost totally different set of Commandments.

 

[Colt]

No problem with that!

In terms of God controlling his word, Moses smashed the stone tablets that God supposedly wrote with his own finger!

And the new ones that replaced them had an almost totally different set of Commandments.

Moses was a reformer. The Sini Volcano was an opportunity for Moses to remake the old ways from Egypt into the new ways going forward.

 

[F1fan]

Again, if that were true, the Israelites would have been derided as liars

No, Christian literalists are calling Hebrews liars because they interpret their own book the same way. The Jews are correct, the Christians are wrong. The Christian literlaists are the liars.

You must ascribe some very dark motives to its authors.

Not as much as those who take the Old Testament from Jews and interpret it in a different way. Christians should accept the Jewish interpretation.

 

[YoursTrue]

You may not be aware but cultures all around the Middle East are well aware that the Israelites cooked the books!

Nonsense, where are you getting this stuff from?

 

[YoursTrue]

In terms of God controlling his word, Moses smashed the stone tablets that God supposedly wrote with his own finger!

Words used in the Bible can be symbolic. Yes, the preservation and use of faithful ones like Moses was ordained by God.

 

[YoursTrue]

Hey "Little Nipper," what happened to you? No comments lately, just watching?

 

[YoursTrue]

Here we shall discuss evidence of NOAH's FLOOD. There is ongoing scientific research that has brought to light many interesting finds, that contrary to some or many ---- does in fact point more and more to a monumental worldwide cataclysm that is labelled the FLOOD in GOD's Word: Global Evidences of the Genesis Flood

So what do you think, "Little Nipper"? @Little Nipper

 

[YoursTrue]

Was it a controlled event? Yes. What’s asinine to me, is to ignore the evidence that exists.
Which I posted above in the ReligiousForums URL address. Just copy & paste. (For some reason it didn’t become a link.)

Contrary to what many on here think, just presenting counter-arguments that don’t focus on the observed facts, is no refutation.

Did you know the Bible comments on Earth’s topography, prior to the Flood?(Psalm 104) It indicates that geologic features, such as mountains, were not as pronounced as they are today. IOW, the Earth’s surface was much smoother than now; there was no Mt. Everest. The high ranges did not exist… or at least, were not as high. We can see the youthful-looking features, geologically speaking, of many mountainous chains.

Yes. I might add that scientists are now discovering that there are vast reserves of water within the earth. Thus when the Bible says water sprang from the depths as well as the heavens, two things are clear: one is that God transmitted knowledge to His servants to write down accurately, and two is that if the continents need shifting He knows how to do it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes. I might add that scientists are now discovering that there are vast reserves of water within the earth. Thus when the Bible says water sprang from the depths as well as the heavens, two things are clear: one is that God transmitted knowledge to His servants to write down accurately, and two is that if the continents need shifting He knows how to do it.

We have been over this. That water has been there for a long long time. It could not have come from a flood.

Do you remember the discussion about drywall? How about concrete? Do you know what concrete is?

 

[John53]

Words used in the Bible can be symbolic. Yes, the preservation and use of faithful ones like Moses was ordained by God.

What's your proof of this claim?

 

[Heyo]

You must ascribe some very dark motives to its authors.

Nah, applying Hanlon's Razor would prevent that.

 

[Colt]

Nonsense, where are you getting this stuff from?

Living in the real world!

The Documentary Hypotheses first tried to explain the conflicting and edited versions of the Hebrew Bible which then lead to the current “Fragmentary” and “Supplementary” theory.

Documentary hypothesis - Wikipedia


“Modern scholars of Israel's religion have become much more circumspect in how they use the Old Testament, not least because many have concluded that the Hebrew Bible is not a reliable witness to the religion of ancient Israel and Judah,[46] representing instead the beliefs of only a small segment of the ancient Israelite community centered in Jerusalem and devoted to the exclusive worship of the god Yahweh.[47][48]

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