Evidence of NOAH's FLOOD

[Kenny]

The believers have not offered any evidence. Please specifically cite objective evidence offered here or any other source.

The foundation evidence against the Noah flood is irrefutable and extensive. Primarily the lack of any geologic evidence for such a flood on the regional or world scale is overwhelming. I am a geologist with over fifty years of experience and one of my specialties is geomorphology and hydrogeology. The occurrence of any such flood is virtually impossible. Also, the construction of a sea-worthy arc such as described is impossible.



Going with the documented objectively verifiable evidence trumps religious mythological claims every time no problem

The objectively verifiable evidence again trumps all of the above. Fundamentalist Christians do indeed start alternate pseudoscience organizations, but they all fail the accepted academic science standards.

The Discovery Institute and AIG are the primary examples, and both state in their organization standards that the Bible takes precedence over science.


No, not in the International academic standards of science, and by the way the Oxford academic standards for history.

Feel free - go to Youtube and type in "creation vs evolution debate"

I'm not trying to debate the issue... just that the debates go on and on and on as I noted.

 

[Audie]

Feel free - go to Youtube and type in "creation vs evolution debate"

I'm not trying to debate the issue... just that the debates go on and on and on as I noted.

It's true that creationists never learn.
Other things you said are not true.

 

[Kenny]

It's true that creationists never learn.
Other things you said are not true.

And that is what I said, it goes back and forth and then forth and back. A never-ending debate culminating with (paraphrased) those people don't know what they are talking about.

 

[John53]

And that is what I said, it goes back and forth and then forth and back. A never-ending debate culminating with (paraphrased) those people don't know what they are talking about.

People are allowed to disagree in debates. It's kind of the point

 

[Subduction Zone]

You leave yourself open when you use the term "Christian Creationist" unless you're willing to explain it in detail. Because it opens up a subject wide and deep. The OP is apparently not willing to discuss it much if at all. Oh well. Here's my take: after much pondering and prayer, I have come to the conclusion that the Bible is true, even when it speaks of the ark and Noah and the flood.

So why do you believe that God is a liar?

 

[Kenny]

People are allowed to disagree in debates. It's kind of the point

That is sooo true... unfortunately there is a contingency that don't give you that right.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Wow!
So you accept the fulfillment of the Jewish prophecies, and that they were written beforehand?

You accept that they wrote truthfully?

Good for you.

You must worship the God of the OT now, huh?

Wow, so quote mining is okay. Well then:

"There is no God". Source? The Bible.

 

[shunyadragon]

Feel free - go to Youtube and type in "creation vs evolution debate"

I have for many years. no cigar or brass ring on this request

I'm not trying to debate the issue... just that the debates go on and on and on as I noted.

This is a debate and dialogue forum. If you cannot support your claims lol.

 

[metis]

I'm not trying to debate the issue... just that the debates go on and on and on as I noted.

Debate is what you can catch de fish with.

 

[John53]

That is sooo true... unfortunately there is a contingency that don't give you that right.

I agree 100%. Many a time I have been threatened with eternal torture unless I believe what they believe.

 

[metis]

To put it very briefly, the Noah's Ark myth* on the literalistic level doesn't make sense-- period. As a teaching story, it very much can and has. It's a shame that so many focus on the literalist side but then ignore the basic teaching of Judaism that it contains.

* a reminder that myth does not mean nor imply falsehood in this context.

 

[Kenny]

I have for many years. no cigar or brass ring on this request


This is a debate and dialogue forum. If you cannot support your claims lol.

wow that was quick. Right after you said that "Adam" wasn't in Genesis.

My claim was that it goes back and forth. With the abundance of youtube videos... my claim is supported. Unless you want to go back and forth on that statement and, ergo, support my claim by your actions.

 

[Audie]

And that is what I said, it goes back and forth and then forth and back. A never-ending debate culminating with (paraphrased) those people don't know what they are talking about

The floodies certainly don't know what they are talking about.
Is there some contribution, some point
that you are attempting to make?

 

[YoursTrue]

Maybe you just don't understand?

1) After coming down Sini Moses smashed the first set of Tablets that God supposedly wrote with his own fingers in stone.

2) Evil religious men whose father was the devil put Jesus through a trumped-up trial and turned him over to the Romans to be crucified.

3) If holy men could conspire to kill the Son of God then their ancestors who wrote the Old Testament could have lied and exaggerated their dubious history!

4) There is no scripture before Moses.

You are basically not making sense. Bye

 

[YoursTrue]

The history of Christianity is a war against other tribes that do not believe as they do including wars between the sects of Christianity. This has been justified by the belief in 'Dominion' and the Manifest Destiny of Christianity over the world as in the prevalence of 'Converting by the Sword.':

Interview — Converting By the Sword | Christian History Magazine

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Amazing that sects would wage war and torture or kill one another. God takes notice and will settle things in the future. He will raise the dead and put an end to fleshly war. Revelation 21:1-5.

 

[Audie]

People are allowed to disagree in debates. It's kind of the point

Who knew? Not everyone !

 

[YoursTrue]

If a person believes in God then it is realistic to understand that God, not man (or evolution), settles the life-and-death issue.

 

[shunyadragon]

wow that was quick. Right after you said that "Adam" wasn't in Genesis.

I never said Adam was not in Genesis. I believe Genesis and Adam are a part of a mythical ancient tribal narrative that has its roots in Middle Eastern mythology going back to Sumerian and Babylonian mythology like all the ancient religions of the world. The unfortunate mythical beliefs of original sin and the fall I described in more detail and you did not respond.

My claim was that it goes back and forth. With the abundance of youtube videos... my claim is supported. Unless you want to go back and forth on that statement and, ergo, support my claim by your actions.

I ignore the youtube videos and go bottom line with the facts, which you duck, bob and weave avoiding coherent response.

 

[Astrophile]

Yes. I might add that scientists are now discovering that there are vast reserves of water within the earth.

The water is not present in liquid form; it is chemically combined with the mineral ringwoodite. If it could be brought to the Earth's surface it would erupt as molten lava, not as a flood.

 

[Audie]

The water is not present in liquid form; it is chemically combined with the mineral ringwoodite. If it could be brought to the Earth's surface it would erupt as molten lava, not as a flood.

That one again.
It's about as drinkable as the water in
a concrete sidewalk.