Are you not a christian? Isn't it your duty as a christian to convince others? If you have a personal experience with a deity, in what sense do you still have faith?
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Evidence of One Deity
- Thread starter Tonymai
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Are you not a christian? Isn't it your duty as a christian to convince others? If you have a personal experience with a deity, in what sense do you still have faith?
Well, that's not strictly accurate, is it? Facts are facts whether you learn/know them or otherwise. And your definition of truths becomes personally interpretive and therefore pretty inadequate beyond yourself. What you seem to be saying (correct me if I'm wrong) is that "Deity" exists beyond doubt and any doubter is such because of never having "experienced" this deity. So, in effect, all bets are off evidence wise. Hmm, that's fair enough I suppose - each to his own god - but it is hardly truth except to oneself and therefore open to the logic that you have experienced deity so it exists then I have not experienced deity so it does not exist. My truth is carries the same weight as yours, can both be the truth?
Facts can be learned/known, but you do not know all the facts. Truth can be experienced, but you have not experienced all. Creatures have absolute sovereignty regarding their choice. God does not impose anything upon the will decisions of man who is no more than finite. A finite being can not comprehend what means by absolute; therefore, the best position he can have is taking on a relative perspective intellectually. However, intellect does not include all human experiences.
Man of Faith
Well-Known Member
Here is the evidence of one God, all life forms are similar enough to be created by one God.
Since this is the evidence of God, what is your evidence that it is your particular God?
...how do those two even relate?
God doesn't like to re-invent the wheel? :slap:
outhouse
Atheistically
:slap:
We know all life forms evolved on this planet.
No creation story has ever been even close to reality. What science knows however does follow reality
The theory of evolution by natural selection is perfectly able to explain why animals are similar enough. Hardly proof of God.
I think he is taking data as fact. And you are taking fact as truth.
I will like to put in slightly different words.
Every one experiences nothing but the deity in all experiences, which is the power of awareness and power of speech, neither of which any human has ever created. And most humans have not examined origin of their awareness and life but just assume that they own these two powers. Some scientists hypothesize origin of life and awareness from non-intelligent matter that they see/surmise, using these very given powers, without even recognising the fallacy.
It is the unknown that is all the time experienced by every one in the known.
krsnaraja
Active Member
I know, hence the Gibb's headslap smilie for being sarcastic.
I did not know Krishna can smile that way.
I know, hence the Gibb's headslap smilie for being sarcastic.
D'oh!! I have trouble catching sarcasm unless it's EXTREMELY obvious.