Evolution a religion

[tumbleweed41]

If the theory of evolution is a religion, then so too is the theory of gravity.

Oh Nos!

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/evolution-vs-creationism/130901-gravitational-ism-religion.html

 

[camanintx]

If the theory of evolution is a religion, then so too is the theory of gravity.

I demand that you teach the controversy and allow Intelligent Falling to be presented in public schools. :sarcastic

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Trying to bring evolution down to the same level as religion is a really cheap tactic.

Evolution is not a religion:

It has no dogma
It has no rules with which to live by
It has no socially binding practises
It has no necessity for faith (except in the scientists doing the research)

It does however have plenty of scientific, reproducible evidence from multiple scientific fields that support evolution and christianity has a book riddled with errors and inconsistencies.

This here....:yes:

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Without question, evolution coupled with abiogenesis acts as a religion for many people. It's their creation story. In fact, Darwinism and Christianity are quite analogous.

Aspect: Darwinism (Christianity)

Creator: Nature (God)

Messiah: Darwin (Jesus)

Holy Text: On the Origin of Species (Bible)

Apostles: Dawkins, Jerry Coyne, P.Z. Meyers, etc. (Peter, John, Andrew, etc.)

Celebration of the Messiah's Birth: Darwin Day (Christmas)

Symbolism:

Two other similarities are in the various conventions atheists attend, in which large groups of atheists sit and listen to sermons about Darwinian evolution. Needless to say. these conventions are eerily similar to church.

The other is the obvious emotional investment atheists have in Darwinian evolution; how they defend it, and the vitriolic outrage they espouse at those who doubt it, as if they're heretics.

Anyone who says there's no religious connection between atheism and Darwinian evolution is either ignorant or a liar. It's so obvious that denying it is like denying gravity.

I'm with 9westy9 on this one. You don't even know what an Atheist is. So far your short stent here at RF you've been wrong on so many levels.....

 

[jasonwill2]

I believe that Evolution is a religion, the believe that something happened, but that can not for sure. So fare now one could prove that evolution is real.

so here is the question does scientists know for a fact that for one animal (example from fish it became a dog) or they just speculate since there similarities this could happened. See faith is needed when you did not see, and you have some facts but there are a lot of missing chains. Evolution, has a lot of missing chains, and until it is not possible to prove it it is a religion. Lets call it a religion with out written rules.

LOL

Gravity's still just a theory...

As are germs and atoms

Which are obviously false, since they are not laws.

What exactly do you mean by still just a theory?

I think he meant it either sarcastically (as a latter post showed) but it is true that we lack a Quantum Theory of Gravity.

Without question, evolution coupled with abiogenesis acts as a religion for many people. It's their creation story. In fact, Darwinism and Christianity are quite analogous.

Aspect: Darwinism (Christianity)

Creator: Nature (God)

Messiah: Darwin (Jesus)

Holy Text: On the Origin of Species (Bible)

Apostles: Dawkins, Jerry Coyne, P.Z. Meyers, etc. (Peter, John, Andrew, etc.)

Celebration of the Messiah's Birth: Darwin Day (Christmas)

Symbolism:

Two other similarities are in the various conventions atheists attend, in which large groups of atheists sit and listen to sermons about Darwinian evolution. Needless to say. these conventions are eerily similar to church.

The other is the obvious emotional investment atheists have in Darwinian evolution; how they defend it, and the vitriolic outrage they espouse at those who doubt it, as if they're heretics.

Anyone who says there's no religious connection between atheism and Darwinian evolution is either ignorant or a liar. It's so obvious that denying it is like denying gravity.

Lies.

Don't you know that the peer review system is a sort of academic hegemony, a grand conspiracy aimed at establishing a New World Order to be governed by the anti christ?

[Edgar Allen] Dang, you beat me to it! I was so close to sealing a deal with him. [/Edgar Allen]

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Did the devil evolve from smoke-filled fire?

No he evolved from a Jewish Title given to many different people and angels.

Don't be silly! The Devil evolved from God! Who evolved from.... umm quantum fluctuations in the void.

Edit: Though Ill allow you might perchance be able to start an evolution denomination that claims 'smoke filled fire' as the devil's origins... but such a blasphemy will not go unpunished! We the true believers shall destroy you! Bring on the first inter evolution denomination war!

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In other news I heard a Baptist Youth Preacher pull this on me... called both atheism and evolution a Religion. Reminds me why I'm not a Christian. Actually he seemed to care more that I was an evolutionist than a Satanist... and I was talking to him in person... go figure.

 

[jarofthoughts]

I demand that you teach the controversy and allow Intelligent Falling to be presented in public schools. :sarcastic

Nope.
I have already introduced my alternative hypothesis of tiny invisible flying blue goblins that push everything down.*







* Really. I used this as an exercise in a fifth grade Science class to show why the burden of proof is on the claimant, and not the ones disputing a claim. We had a lot of fun with that 'hypothesis'.

 

[Tiberius]

I believe that Evolution is a religion, the believe that something happened, but that can not for sure. So fare now one could prove that evolution is real.

Please define religion.

 

[A Troubled Man]

Loosely defined, a religion is a strong belief in supernatural entities. Where are the supernatural entities of evolution to believe?

 

[jasonwill2]

Loosely defined, a religion is a strong belief in supernatural entities. Where are the supernatural entities of evolution to believe?

Tell that to LaVeyan Satanists, some sects of Buddhism, and the original form of Taoism... all those religions are atheistic.

Religions can be atheistic, but no religion cannot live without beliefs, ritual/custom, and philosophy/life-style. A lot have dogma and ceremony too though. Supernatural forces are not necessary.

 

[A Troubled Man]

Tell that to LaVeyan Satanists, some sects of Buddhism, and the original form of Taoism... all those religions are atheistic.

Religions can be atheistic, but no religion cannot live without beliefs, ritual/custom, and philosophy/life-style. A lot have dogma and ceremony too though. Supernatural forces are not necessary.

And yet, each example you provide does indeed include some sort of metaphysical or supernatural force to support it, forces that are not observed in nature or explained in any way that can be tested.

Also notice, I said "Loosely defined" meaning that the vast majority of religions worship some sort of supernatural entity.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Tell that to LaVeyan Satanists, some sects of Buddhism, and the original form of Taoism... all those religions are atheistic.

Religions can be atheistic, but no religion cannot live without beliefs, ritual/custom, and philosophy/life-style. A lot have dogma and ceremony too though. Supernatural forces are not necessary.

They just said "supernatural entities". They didn't say those "supernatural entities" were specifically God or Gods.

 

[jasonwill2]

They just said "supernatural entities". They didn't say those "supernatural entities" were specifically God or Gods.

LaVeyan Satanism believes in NO supernatural entities. It is completely materialistic. Though they do think that there are "supernormal" experiences where a person in a heightened emotional state can influence the actions of others through some kind of quasi-latent telepathic ability more or less.... but even that is naturalistic to them, a part of our minds we don't understand yet. If it exists my understanding is that they think it works as a powerful kind of sub-conscious suggestion mechanism. In other words you imprint the idea of what you want and they might go out and do it without realizing.

Though I may be wrong on the details that's all they believe in terms of supernormal as far as I know.

Other than that tiny bit they are stereotypical atheists and materialists.