Autodidact
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The poster is a YEC Christian and opposes science, need we say more?
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Evolution and atheism
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The poster is a YEC Christian and opposes science, need we say more?
evolved yet?
A Young Evolutionist
what is an OP?
evolved yet?
A Young Evolutionist
You can believe evolution and atheism, you can believe evolution and theism but you can't believe atheism and not evolution.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
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Sure you can. There were atheists before Darwin.
Technically that is true, but rather unlikely these days. It would take very poor access to current biological knowledge.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
It happens, sad to say. Anyway, the comment I was responding to said "can't," not "probably won't."
David M
Well-Known Member
Prof. Kenneth R. Miller is a christian and promotes evolution, need we say more.
David M
Well-Known Member
Scientologists would disagree with you there. And what about atheists prior to Darwin?
Autodidact
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btw ManofFaith, is there some particular reason you're avoiding this thread?
Man of Faith
Well-Known Member
I've already destroyed all so called evidence for evolution with logic and reason so why keep debating the same thing? I've seen all the data for evolution and it is lacking, I get bored repeating the same things.
Gunfingers
Happiness Incarnate
It's cute, isn't it? Like that guy who thought he'd solved division by zero by making up the word "nullity".
Autodidact
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Really? Could you point to the thread or post where that happened? Because all I've ever seen is
(1) a denial that there is any evidence AND
(2) a refusal to look at the evidence.
To my knowledge you are completely ignorant about that evidence, and do everything in your power to remain so.
In fact, don't you accept 90% of ToE, and differ only in the number of common ancestors? That's odd that you virtually accept a theory you've "destroyed." It's also odd you haven't been nominated for a Nobel prize.
I'll put it differently. You're lying. Prove me wrong.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Actually, closing your eyes, sticking your fingers in your ears and humming loudly does not destroy the evidence for evolution, it just prevents you from seeing or hearing it.
Wotan
Active Member
Originally Posted by Man of Faith
I've already destroyed all so called evidence for evolution with logic and reason so why keep debating the same thing? I've seen all the data for evolution and it is lacking, I get bored repeating the same things.
Not as bored as we get reading your stuff.
How do you explain Todd Wood and Kenneth Miller?
Oh wait I remember now. They aren't REAL Christians.
I've already destroyed all so called evidence for evolution with logic and reason so why keep debating the same thing? I've seen all the data for evolution and it is lacking, I get bored repeating the same things.
Not as bored as we get reading your stuff.
How do you explain Todd Wood and Kenneth Miller?
Oh wait I remember now. They aren't REAL Christians.
Man of Faith
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Man of Faith
I've already destroyed all so called evidence for evolution with logic and reason so why keep debating the same thing? I've seen all the data for evolution and it is lacking, I get bored repeating the same things.
Not as bored as we get reading your stuff.
How do you explain Todd Wood and Kenneth Miller?
Oh wait I remember now. They aren't REAL Christians.
They are Christians that want acceptance by the world. They want to try to reconcile evolution and their faith because they are under the false impression that it is necessary to do that in order to show that their faith is reasonable. They don't realize that, that reconciliation actually destroys their faith and the book they get it from.
Gunfingers
Happiness Incarnate
It would destroy your faith. Clearly theirs is made of tougher stuff than yours.
So, Kenneth Miller, who is a molecular biologist just wants acceptence in the world? This is a man who was instrumental in the dover vs kitz-miller case, and who wrote the biology text books for high school. He's a christian who understands that the bible isn't a science book. In fact, most bishops accept evolution, because the evidence is overwhelming. So, don't try and play it up like they're just yearning for acceptance in the world.
Autodidact
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Or maybe, unlike MoF, they actually looked at the evidence.
This is an Ad Hominem.
This is actually a perfect textbook example of an ad hominem and I think people should take notice. Most people misunderstand what an ad hominem attack is, they tend to think that it is just an insult, but that is not what it means. And insult need not be an ad hominem, and an ad hominem need not be an insult. An ad hominem fallacy is when the comment is directed at the person and not at the persons arguments. What MoF has done here is a perfect example. He is dismissing the evidence simply because an irrelevant detail about the person who presented the evidence.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Actually, you have been presented with numerous opportunities to fulfill your promise of "destroying the evidence for evolution" and you have yet to keep your word in doing so.
Denial =/= Destroy.
Atheism =/= Evolution
Evolution =/= No God
Christian =/= Literal Biblical Creationist