Evolution Deniers more Bigoted

[The Hammer]

What religion would that be

Whichever they can twist to their needs.

 

[InChrist]

Of course. Like blaming evolution for bigotry,
genovide etc.
Calling it that is stuoid, and, worse, its the same misuse
ofvsomething good, turning it it evil.

I agree, blaming evolution doesn’t make a lot of sense. I think bigotry is simply rooted in sinful human nature ( I realize you likely don’t agree with that) and can cross over into anyone’s belief system. If someone holds bigoted, racist views and feel superior to others it probably has a lot more to do with their own personality, their upbringing, the attitudes and examples they were exposed to.

 

[Audie]

I agree, blaming evolution doesn’t make a lot of sense. I think bigotry is simply rooted in sinful human nature ( I realize you likely don’t agree with that) and can cross over into anyone’s belief system. If someone holds bigoted, racist views and feel superior to others it probably has a lot more to do with their own personality, their upbringing, the attitudes and examples they were exposed to.

Skip the " sin" bit and i totally,agree.

 

[firedragon]

I agree, blaming evolution doesn’t make a lot of sense. I think bigotry is simply rooted in sinful human nature ( I realize you likely don’t agree with that) and can cross over into anyone’s belief system. If someone holds bigoted, racist views and feel superior to others it probably has a lot more to do with their own personality, their upbringing, the attitudes and examples they were exposed to.

I would like you to consider something.

What is your personal definition of bigotry?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I agree, blaming evolution doesn’t make a lot of sense. I think bigotry is simply rooted in sinful human nature ( I realize you likely don’t agree with that) and can cross over into anyone’s belief system.

Sure, but the article in the OP suggests that bigotry crosses over more when the person also denies evolution.

If someone holds bigoted, racist views and feel superior to others it probably has a lot more to do with their own personality, their upbringing, the attitudes and examples they were exposed to.

And, apparently, the sorts of upbringing and examples that lead to bigoted views are also the sorts of upbringing and examples that lead to denial of evolution... at least enough of the time that a correlation pops out in the data.

And in the survey area of the poll, the thing that most often leads to denial of evolution is a Christian upbringing.

 

[Brian2]

And, apparently, the sorts of upbringing and examples that lead to bigoted views are also the sorts of upbringing and examples that lead to denial of evolution... at least enough of the time that a correlation pops out in the data.

And in the survey area of the poll, the thing that most often leads to denial of evolution is a Christian upbringing.

Certainly a certain sort of Christian upbringing would lead to a denial of evolution but I don't remember reading that the thing that most often leads to denial of evolution is a Christian upbringing.
In other cultures it would be a certain form of Muslim or Jewish etc upbringing that would lead to denial of evolution.

 

[MrIntelligentDesign]

People who reject the theory of human evolution tend to have more bigoted attitudes

"Individuals who accept human evolution tend to exhibit reduced levels of prejudice compared to those who reject the scientific theory, according to new research published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. The study indicates that disbelief in evolution predicts racism and prejudice around the world and in various cultural contexts."

Who knew that denying evolution made one more susceptible to being a bigot.

Why we have to believe and accept that research, when they could lie always?

EVOLUTION IS NOT SCIENCE!

 

[The Hammer]

Why we have to believe and accept that research, when they could lie always?

EVOLUTION IS NOT SCIENCE!

Maybe you're lying right now, hmm?

 

[SkepticThinker]

What’s life if you can’t be just a little bit of a bigot...?

Skip the " sin" bit and i totally,agree.

Me too.

 

[InChrist]

Sure, but the article in the OP suggests that bigotry crosses over more when the person also denies evolution.


And, apparently, the sorts of upbringing and examples that lead to bigoted views are also the sorts of upbringing and examples that lead to denial of evolution... at least enough of the time that a correlation pops out in the data.

And in the survey area of the poll, the thing that most often leads to denial of evolution is a Christian upbringing.

Well, whatever the poll may indicate, it’s contrary to my experience. I went to public school and was taught evolution. My parents were not Christian and my father was very bigoted and derogatory toward people of color, which I always believed was wrong. I did not become a Christian until in my thirties. Then I began to understand from the scriptures that God created ONE race - the human race. Therefore, as a Christian I know racism or elevating oneself above others is unacceptable and considered sin in the eyes of God.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It may be that it spread by some convoluted form of religious Christianity, but such beliefs are in conflict with the biblical scriptures.

It does have Biblical support to an extent with the Jews being forbidden to partake of Pagan things or Paul's being more selective with who he'd associate with. With such things in mind, to the Anglo-Saxons not only where other groups wrong for behaving differently even other Christians would be wrong. That attitude extended even into the late 20th Century.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What’s life if you can’t be just a little bit of a bigot...?

Not as miserable, hateful, or anti-social.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sure, but the article in the OP suggests that bigotry crosses over more when the person also denies evolution.

It really shouldn't be surprising. After all, those who deny evolution are also frequently taught to hate certain groups of sinners.

 

[InChrist]

It does have Biblical support to an extent with the Jews being forbidden to partake of Pagan things or Paul's being more selective with who he'd associate with. With such things in mind, to the Anglo-Saxons not only where other groups wrong for behaving differently even other Christians would be wrong. That attitude extended even into the late 20th Century.

The Bible does not give support for bigotry or racism. The Bible does make distinctions between sinful behaviors or Spirit-led behaviors. You cannot equate the two. Anyone who does, even Christians, to excuse a wrong or superior attitude toward others are acting contrary to the scriptures.

 

[GardenLady]

Using data from the American General Social Survey and Pew Research Center

Having spent decades in the social science research field, I can say that the GSS and Pew are sources of methodologically sound data. Online surveys... I'd have to know a lot more about those--there is lots of variation in quality.

 

[Kenny]

People who reject the theory of human evolution tend to have more bigoted attitudes

"Individuals who accept human evolution tend to exhibit reduced levels of prejudice compared to those who reject the scientific theory, according to new research published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. The study indicates that disbelief in evolution predicts racism and prejudice around the world and in various cultural contexts."

Who knew that denying evolution made one more susceptible to being a bigot.

Looking at the abstract:

"Supporting the hypothesis, low belief in human evolution was associated with higher levels of prejudice, racist attitudes, and support for discriminatory behaviors against Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Queer (LGBTQ), Blacks, and immigrants in the United States (Study 1)"]

I find it quite suspect.

First, that the correlation is even correct.

It would be like me saying, "those who believe in evolution have a higher level of prejudice and support for discriminatory behaviors against Christians, Muslims and other faiths"

too many questions, too many false correlations

The first author is still a student - Styianos Syropoulos and haven't checked the others.

Too many factor IMO.

 

[Brian2]

Looking at the abstract:

"Supporting the hypothesis, low belief in human evolution was associated with higher levels of prejudice, racist attitudes, and support for discriminatory behaviors against Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Queer (LGBTQ), Blacks, and immigrants in the United States (Study 1)"]

I find it quite suspect.

First, that the correlation is even correct.

It would be like me saying, "those who believe in evolution have a higher level of prejudice and support for discriminatory behaviors against Christians, Muslims and other faiths"

too many questions, too many false correlations

The first author is still a student - Styianos Syropoulos and haven't checked the others.

Too many factor IMO.

It would be interesting to see what the questions were and what was classed as discriminatory behaviour and attitudes.
And yes as you seem to suggest, the people who were conducting the surveys and research may have their ideas about what is bigoted and prejudiced in some areas and these ideas might be classed as bigoted and prejudiced in themselves if viewed from a different perspective.
Certainly ideas about bigotry have changed recently.

 

[metis]

I think the poll is likely correct because there's a correlation between educational level as applied to whether one accepts the basic ToE, with lower levels more apt to reject it, as also with those within the "religious right".

BTW, this is one of the reasons why I left the church I grew up in when in my mid-20's. The main other factor was racism within my old church, and it was very overt.

 

[Brian2]

I think the poll is likely correct because there's a correlation between educational level as applied to whether one accepts the basic ToE, with lower levels more apt to reject it, as also with those within the "religious right".

BTW, this is one of the reasons why I left the church I grew up in when in my mid-20's. The main other factor was racism within my old church, and it was very overt.

It is a sad thing that whole churches can be influenced against the teachings of Jesus by their teachers and by the environment they have grown up in. Hopefully change is happening these days.

 

[metis]

It is a sad thing that whole churches can be influenced against the teachings of Jesus by their teachers and by the environment they have grown up in. Hopefully change is happening these days.

I think so too, and one very disturbing aspect of that is when clergy inject secular politics into what they preach.