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evolution is a fact

outhouse

Atheistically
Well, the religious contention is that nothing is impossible for God.

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And reality seems to be everything is impossible for any god.

There is nothing anywhere, in any part of the world, where somthing can be attributed to any deity, let alone one of them.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Today I watched a video of a Dog being electrocuted and killed for its fur. These are things that sometimes make you wonder if God exists. As a theologian, maybe that thought should never enter my mind but it does. Only the scripture is making me believe God exists.
Then look at some of the nasty parasites out there.

Thus, I am not negating your question at all. Just that, what ifs are abundant and answers to that is bleak. And as a past university student of evolution I have too many questions on evolution to blindly believe in that. To me, even evolution needs faith. A lot of it.
Then you didn't get a very good education. As a student myself, taking several classes in "evolution" (which isn't a class, but is the topic of classes like anthroplogy, biology, or biochemistry), and a hobbyist in dealing with live things (like yeast, plants, infestations, and such), it is very obvious to me that evolution is true.

For instance, I brew beer. At times I've salvaged yeast cultures for further production from a batch. This you can only do about 7 times in a uncontrolled home environment because after 7 generations of yeast culture you're starting to get off flavors from mutated yeast. They mutate and change their eating habits and the flavor content changes with it. 7 generations here is a misnomer since it's not generation as in offspring, but in generations of saved culture. Each culture goes through millions of generations during the fermentation process, of course, so in reality there are a lot of offsprings during that time. But in any case, yeast changes.


Hops that's used in beer production has changed too. Today we have hundreds of new breeds of hops that didn't exist 100 years ago, or even 50, or 10. Where did they come from? They have new genetic code. No one coded this genetic code in them. They were bred (which is letting nature take its course), and the selected, and voila, new genetic code. And it was not done with GMO. So... sorry bud, but there are thousands of examples of modern use of evolutionary process.
 

ScuzManiac

Active Member
And reality seems to be everything is impossible for any god.

There is nothing anywhere, in any part of the world, where something can be attributed to any deity, let alone one of them.

Unless you count the Crossroads Festival created by Eric Clapton...

Because he is a guitar God!

:eek:
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
By implication the scriptures do. At least the way some people read them. Because creationism is incompatible with evolution, and because Biblical scripture trumps all other forms of evidence, by default evolution has to be baloney.

As organisms ruled by determinism, in a sense that's what we already are.

Of course, because the Bible is rife with improbabilities, contradictions, and outright nonsense. And to make any kind of sense of it all is impossible, which is why people rarely, if ever, try to do so. Most often the approach is unquestioning belief and faith, sans any question as to its lack of logic.

Since TOE doesnt begin with creation how could you say that it is incompatible with evolution?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Then look at some of the nasty parasites out there.


Then you didn't get a very good education. As a student myself, taking several classes in "evolution" (which isn't a class, but is the topic of classes like anthroplogy, biology, or biochemistry), and a hobbyist in dealing with live things (like yeast, plants, infestations, and such), it is very obvious to me that evolution is true.

For instance, I brew beer. At times I've salvaged yeast cultures for further production from a batch. This you can only do about 7 times in a uncontrolled home environment because after 7 generations of yeast culture you're starting to get off flavors from mutated yeast. They mutate and change their eating habits and the flavor content changes with it. 7 generations here is a misnomer since it's not generation as in offspring, but in generations of saved culture. Each culture goes through millions of generations during the fermentation process, of course, so in reality there are a lot of offsprings during that time. But in any case, yeast changes.


Hops that's used in beer production has changed too. Today we have hundreds of new breeds of hops that didn't exist 100 years ago, or even 50, or 10. Where did they come from? They have new genetic code. No one coded this genetic code in them. They were bred (which is letting nature take its course), and the selected, and voila, new genetic code. And it was not done with GMO. So... sorry bud, but there are thousands of examples of modern use of evolutionary process.

Dont simply say things for the sake of saying things. You dont know what the other people are educated of. And FYI, there are classes on evolution. Lol, just saying.

A very good education?? I wonder if your ego looks into your own eyes.

Peace.
 
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