Evolution is False and Impossible

[camanintx]

Four-billion years. It should be about eight-billion years old when our sun collapses into itself and becomes a black hole. You were close, though.

Our sun is not big enough to become a black hole. Most likely it will turn into a red giant then blow off it's surface as a planetary nebula, leaving just white dwarf star.

 

[DarkSun]

Our sun is not big enough to become a black hole. Most likely it will turn into a red giant then blow off it's surface as a planetary nebula, leaving just white dwarf star.

My physics teacher seemed to think otherwise. :sarcastic

But I've had a quick look, and it seems that you're right. In another 4.5 billion years the sun should become a red giant. My bad.

 

[Sententia]

i don't think that god exists, i know he exists thats why i believe in him.

God is a him? If god has a sex then god wouldn't be. Or is there a girl god that he procreates with?

Stating you know something which is unknowable is what exactly in your case? Ignorance? Wishful thinking? Indoctrination? (Standard faire fundy eh?)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Birds have heavily evolved for not only flight, but reproduction. Bigger, brighter feathers, even though they may reduce survival of the individual bird, will allow for a higher chance of mating. Simple tests have been concluded and proved this.

Many transition fossils have been found, and while many have not, they are looking for them. If they have found them all, many archeologist and paleontologist would be out of a job.

Scientist have indeed created single cell organisms from a chemical soup and lightning. It's been done in labs time and time again.

Simple biology will prove there are many chromosomal variances. And many of them can, and do indeed happen. Also, that statement is not how natural selection works. And, females play the biggest role in evolution for any species that produce sexually.

The "errors" in DNA is the vary basis of natural selection. If DNA never changed, was never altered, then we would still be swimming around thermal vents in the ocean.

Evolution has much evidence, and their are simply no laws in science. Not even gravity. We actually have a much better understanding of evolution than we do gravity, which is also a theory.

No life on Mars does not disprove evolution. It would only mean Mars has never been capable of supporting life. And radio silence from space hardly means anything. If we recieved a message today from the nearest star, it woud have been sent when the Neanderthal walked the earth.

 

[painted wolf]

Scientist have indeed created single cell organisms from a chemical soup and lightning. It's been done in labs time and time again.

No... they have produced precursor organic molecules....

wa:do

 

[nonbeliever_92]

Our sun is not big enough to become a black hole. Most likely it will turn into a red giant then blow off it's surface as a planetary nebula, leaving just white dwarf star.

not only that it will expand and engulf venus and mercury and then implode, but it won't become a black hole.

 

[Breathe]

No... they have produced precursor organic molecules....

Can you inform me as to what is missing from these organic molecules that are in actual single-celled organisms?

 

[painted wolf]

Can you inform me as to what is missing from these organic molecules that are in actual single-celled organisms?

The cell part.
Actually, to be more accurate... We have produced RNA (self replicating even), lipid bilayers (cell walls), amino acids, and so on... but never have we gotten them all together in one bundle.
That's pretty much the next step... to get self replicating RNA inside a proto-cell (lipid bilayer) chugging away. Maybe making a protein.

wa:do

 

[gnostic]

The Toe of "God"!​

I seriously think the toe nail is in serious need of clipping.

 

[Yerda]

That was painfully bad. Sore on the brain.

 

[The Neo Nerd]

I was browsing when I found this.

LOL once again proving creationists have no idea about ToE.

-Q

 

[Jeremy Mason]

Scientist have indeed created single cell organisms from a chemical soup and lightning. It's been done in labs time and time again.

As a cook, I appreciate this...LOL!!!!
"It's alive, it's alive!!!! :biglaugh:

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No... they have produced precursor organic molecules....

Thanks for clarifing that.

 

[Breathe]

The cell part.
Actually, to be more accurate... We have produced RNA (self replicating even), lipid bilayers (cell walls), amino acids, and so on... but never have we gotten them all together in one bundle.
That's pretty much the next step... to get self replicating RNA inside a proto-cell (lipid bilayer) chugging away. Maybe making a protein.

wa:do

I understood all of that... Surprising!

Thanks for elaborating, though. It'll be exciting times when they finally do.
Wonder what a creationist would say then..?

 

[painted wolf]

You're both welcome.

I try to explain things in as plain language as possible... I realize that a lot of scientific jargon can be confusing.

wa:do

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Four-billion years. It should be about eight-billion years old when our sun collapses into itself and becomes a black hole. You were close, though.

From what scientist have observed from other suns that are of similiar characteristics of our own. Our own sun in a few billion years, give or take, is not going to collapse, but rather rapidly expand to such a size in which the earth would have to be past Mars to survive, as the earth in our current location would be incinerated. Interestingly enough, it has been proposed that rockets be attached to a number of asteroids, and then have then propelled towards earth. The gravitational pull would then push the earth slightly outward with each pass. Now of course, there are plenty of things that can go wrong with that, such as a slight miscalculation causing the asteroid to collide with earth, or the earth could collide with Mars.

 

[nonbeliever_92]

Evolution is a fact-things change. The theory of evolution is just a theory and shouldn't be taken as truth. It's a theory driven to prove that living things change over lots and lots of time.

 

[painted wolf]

In science "theory" is descriptive tool of the truth... there is no "just a theory" in biology.
Like the 'germ theory of disease'.... the fact that germs cause sickness is truth.

wa:do

 

[DarkSun]

The cell part.
Actually, to be more accurate... We have produced RNA (self replicating even), lipid bilayers (cell walls), amino acids, and so on... but never have we gotten them all together in one bundle.
That's pretty much the next step... to get self replicating RNA inside a proto-cell (lipid bilayer) chugging away. Maybe making a protein.

wa:do

Just out of curiousity ...

What are the odds of exactly the right RNA manifesting inside a phospho-lipid bilayer, or even a liposome, in order for the resulting cell the become self-replicating? I understand that the odds are slim, but I was just wondering exactly how slim.

Wouldn't you need EVERYTHING to be in exactly the right place at the right time?

I can understand how this could happen over the process of several billion years, but gee, if we haven't been able to replicate the results in a lab. yet, it'd have to be pretty miraculous for something like that to happen randomly.

 

[painted wolf]

What do you consider the "right" RNA?

The odds are there were dozens if not more early self replicating strains of RNA competing with one another. There could easily have been millions of false starts in such basic chemistry happening around the globe every day.

Honestly we have only started to be able to produce self-replicating RNA in the lab this year (or was it last?)... It's too early to say what the odds were like back then.

wa:do