Evolution My ToE

[Subduction Zone]

Of course!
Doesn't matter when your dream dates have something happeneing. They are based on ratios of isotopes for the most part. Ratios that got there by either creation or/and the subsequent processes of the former different nature! Not by anything happening in this present nature. (as science has assumed and believed for no real reason at all).

I can't see any way around it. Science does know that the continents were together one time in the past. If you believed in the bible would you not also deduce the same thing?[/QUOTE]
Oh my! You are claiming that your God is a liar again.

If you understood the nature of evidence you might see this.

 

[dad]

No, it is a term that uneducated and rude bigots use. I only said that she was human. You want to make that some sort of deadly sin.

To claim that the bible and prophecy were wrong and that Jesus was wrong and the New Testament interpretation of old testament prophecy was wrong is no light matter. I would say you need to learn some respect.

 

[dad]

How are facts "Satanic"?

Claiming Mary was not a virgin when bearing Jesus, and that Paul the apostle was mentally ill, and that bible prophesy in many cases was not prophesy but fraudulently written after the fact, and that the writers of the NT were not honest etc are not facts.

 

[YoursTrue]

And yet you are much more upset over this alleged insult than God...

Regardless of whether I like your style of presentation, there are religious beliefs that describe Mary as a loose woman. Thus while professing to worship God, they reject the New Testament. I, however, do not believe they are right. But then there are those who do not believe Moses or the descendants of Jacob were taken captive in Egypt either, yet many do believe these things.

 

[Subduction Zone]

To claim that the bible and prophecy were wrong and that Jesus was wrong and the New Testament interpretation of old testament prophecy was wrong is no light matter. I would say you need to learn some respect.

i don't "claim" that the Bible is wrong. I can and have shown it to be wrong. And the Bible's prophecies tend to fail.

Some reading material for dad:

Biblical prophecies - RationalWiki

 

[Subduction Zone]

Claiming Mary was not a virgin when bearing Jesus, and that Paul the apostle was mentally ill, and that bible prophesy in many cases was not prophesy but fraudulently written after the fact, and that the writers of the NT were not honest etc are not facts.

Some of them are facts. Some of them are reasonable explanations.

A ten year pregnancy on the other hand is a myth.

 

[dad]

I can't see any way around it. Science does know that the continents were together one time in the past. If you believed in the bible would you not also deduce the same thing?

Oh my! You are claiming that your God is a liar again.

If you understood the nature of evidence you might see this.[/QUOTE] God never said anything about continents separating or dividing millions of years ago. The dividing mentioned in Genesis (which some interpret as including the dividing of the continents) was in the days of Peleg. Peleg was, by some accounts about 5 years old at the time of the tower of Babel. That was recent.

 

[dad]

i don't "claim" that the Bible is wrong. I can and have shown it to be wrong. And the Bible's prophecies tend to fail.

Some reading material for dad:

Biblical prophecies - RationalWiki

Maybe find a thread for whining about baseless and foolish doubts.

 

[YoursTrue]

I understand that you think of your all powerful god as a little child who cannot protect itself, thus the reason YOU are here ranting about insults...

I have not read what dad thinks about this, but it is clear that within the context of those who call themselves Christians there are many opposing beliefs. Now if something is opposing another, it means one is right and the other is wrong. Or they are both wrong.

 

[Subduction Zone]

God never said anything about continents separating or dividing millions of years ago. The dividing mentioned in Genesis (which some interpret as including the dividing of the continents) was in the days of Peleg. Peleg was, by some accounts about 5 years old at the time of the tower of Babel. That was recent.

Correct. God never said anything. You are conflating the Bible with God again.

And Genesis is a book of myths.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Maybe find a thread for whining about baseless and foolish doubts.

dad, I am ready to discuss my claims. I will probably have to continually post definitions of evidence for you.

 

[YoursTrue]

Where is the 'missing link' in this sequence of fossil hominins?
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I think the following is cute, if not funny, although I laughed when I saw the cute-funny face of the chimpanzee. Regarding the "last common ancestor" of humans, "Scientists have been on the trail of the LCA for decades, and they still have not found it. But many are convinced that they have established enough information to make the hunt a lot easier. They think they know roughly when and where the LCA lived. They even have a reasonable idea of what it looked like and how it behaved." We have still not found the missing link between us and apes
You gotta love this guy.

 

[McBell]

I have not read what dad thinks about this, but it is clear that within the context of those who call themselves Christians there are many opposing beliefs. Now if something is opposing another, it means one is right and the other is wrong. Or they are both wrong.

How does this reply address the point of the post you quoted for this reply?

 

[McBell]

Maybe find a thread for whining about baseless and foolish doubts.

You have already turned this thread into you doing just that.

 

[Bear Wild]

If dinos were not already mostly extict, which I suspect may have been the case, they would not have been called to the ark unless they were original created kinds. There is much scientific speculation that some dinos and birds are related. So, if that were true we would have had birds that adapted/evolved to dinos. (since birds were here since creation week for sure). That would make dinos very evolved from the created kind. So they would not have been one of the kinds of animals invited.

You stated that Noah landed the ark on Pangea which would be the age of dinosaurs. Most modern mammals would not be there. So from what you have said Noah should have let the dinosaurs on the ark or did he not listen to god.
So now you are saying that dinosaurs evolved from birds? Seriously? You also are saying the dinosaurs were there but did not get an invitation for the ark cruise ship? Why not?

 

[Bear Wild]

Of course!

Of course you were smoking the hookah with the caterpillar down the rabbit hole?

Doesn't matter when your dream dates have something happeneing. They are based on ratios of isotopes for the most part. Ratios that got there by either creation or/and the subsequent processes of the former different nature! Not by anything happening in this present nature. (as science has assumed and believed for no real reason at all).

I can't see any way around it. Science does know that the continents were together one time in the past. If you believed in the bible would you not also deduce the same thing?[/QUOTE]

You were the one that stated Noah landed on Pangea and the bible identified Pangea?
And what do you mean by "the subsequent processes of the former different nature! Not by anything happening in this present nature." ? what new imaginative process are you talking about?
What is the former different nature?

 

[Bear Wild]

Claiming Mary was not a virgin when bearing Jesus, and that Paul the apostle was mentally ill, and that bible prophesy in many cases was not prophesy but fraudulently written after the fact, and that the writers of the NT were not honest etc are not facts.

So where did jesus get his y chromosome from? And paul may have been mentally ill with hallucinations and hearing voices.

 

[YoursTrue]

How does this reply address the point of the post you quoted for this reply?

Because there are those claiming to believe in a book, or religious belief that may seem based on the same material somehow, but whose ideas oppose one another.

 

[Bear Wild]

I think the following is cute, if not funny, although I laughed when I saw the cute-funny face of the chimpanzee. Regarding the "last common ancestor" of humans, "Scientists have been on the trail of the LCA for decades, and they still have not found it. But many are convinced that they have established enough information to make the hunt a lot easier. They think they know roughly when and where the LCA lived. They even have a reasonable idea of what it looked like and how it behaved." We have still not found the missing link between us and apes
You gotta love this guy.

The article you have a link to did a good job showing how as more evidence occurs we can refine our interpretation. That's what makes science such a powerful tool of discovery. The fact that we have not yet found the last common ancestor does not weaken the theory of evolution and the accumulating evidence as presented demonstrates that all of the new evidence supports evolution and no other explanation. Thank you for the link.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You have already turned this thread into you doing just that.

And making up very bizarre and poorly crafted science fiction. I guess it can be called that even if there is no science involved. Maybe fantasy fiction is more accurate.

Dinosaurs are not created in this world. They mysteriously came to exist outside of biblical claims.