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Evolution My ToE

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
What is this obsession with science. Is science the only way to know truth? Please don't claim yes. That would not be true.

It's only the best method we've come up with to date for accurately determining what is going on in the world around us.
It's only a method of measuring, testing and analyzing everything around us to determine how it operates.

Gee, I wonder why people are "obssessed" with science.:shrug:
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Believing in creation as per the Scripture Jesus confirmed was true is anything but ignorance, it is the light of God.
Believing that you are kin to worms and came from the same relatives is deliberate belief.
You've got that backwards.

It can be demonstrated that worms are distantly related to humans. It's not a belief.
It cannot be demonstrated that "as per the Scripture Jesus confirmed was true". It's a belief.
 

dad

Undefeated
You've got that backwards.

It can be demonstrated that worms are distantly related to humans. It's not a belief.
It cannot be demonstrated that "as per the Scripture Jesus confirmed was true". It's a belief.
False. No relation via birth canal.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
What is this obsession with science. Is science the only way to know truth? Please don't claim yes. That would not be true.


I don’t debate internet links. And I am not discussing whether science is the only way to get to some truths.

I am challenging your claims that science is compatible with religion. It is not. By far. There cannot be two things that are more different in both claims and methodology.

But if you now believe it does not need to be....that there are more reliable ways to go to the truth, then ok. Another debate. But if you insist that they are compatible, then you will be challenged.

Ciao

- viole
 

dad

Undefeated
What?
The relation is via genetics. In the same way we can tell your great-grandfather is your blood relative, we can tell that we are distantly related to worms (and other life forms).
No way that current generics existed as is unless you can prove that the forces and laws/nature we now know also existed, and you can't. Get over it. There ARE no usable good sample from pre KT. Unless you provide some you are preaching religion.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I know what can be evidenced or not and your religion can't be.
You quite apparently, do not. You demonstrate this with every one of your posts, each and every time you refuse to present any evidence backing up any of your claims.

You assume a same nature/genetics...whooopee do.
I assume nothing. Nature/genetics, as you call it is demonstrable.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
No way that current generics existed as is unless you can prove that the forces and laws/nature we now know also existed, and you can't. Get over it. There ARE no usable good sample from pre KT.
What are you going on about and why is it relevant?


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The genome of S. mediterranea and the evolution of cellular core mechanisms
What is the Human Genome Project?

See? Demonstrable.
Unless you provide some you are preaching religion.

Apparently you have no idea what religion is.
 

dad

Undefeated
You quite apparently, do not. You demonstrate this with every one of your posts, each and every time you refuse to present any evidence backing up any of your claims.


I assume nothing. Nature/genetics, as you call it is demonstrable.
That it 3xists and works today? Yes. That it was the same in the far past...no.
 
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