Evolution My ToE

[Subduction Zone]

One example is that ancient Egypt records cite spirit gods/beings as the first rulers.

And you believe these?

 

[dad]

You should since you're the one trying to push it as some kind of fact of reality.

No. When I point out that science doesn't know, that does not mean someone else does. What science may know is where the fossil of this horseshoe crab was found.

A quick search found that the oldest fossil was from the time that came after the Cambrian.

Oldest Horseshoe Crab Fossil Found, 445 Million Years Old

So, that means this was looong after Adam was created. Since this was in the former nature rather than the present nature, we can deduce that rapid evolving was the order of the day at that time. (there are many reasons from the bible and science together to think this)

Therefore we cannot say that the crab did not undergo a lot of adapting over time. That means we cannot declare it a created kind.

In that former nature, most life on earth including man likely could not leave fossilized remains. So we do not expect to see man in the fossil record in the very beginning although of course he was here.

 

[dad]

And you believe these?

It is not what I believe that is the issue, but what very ancient records say. Spirits are very much part of that early record.

 

[ecco]

Great, so when we see spirtits as rulers or influencing ancient history you dismiss it because you believe there is no such thing. That is denial. Furthermore denial based on ignorance alone.

When you provide historical evidence that spirit beings were real and influenced history, I might change my mind. However, I have been alive for many. many years and no one has ever provided any historical evidence that spirit beings were real and influenced history.

So, not only would such evidence provided by you sway me, it would change the course of history forever. I doubt that you can do what no other person has ever been able to do.

 

[ecco]

Don't throw a tantrum because some folks will not include the dark, belief based origin fables as part of what science really is. You made it clear you have no ability or wish to differentiate.

I'm not throwing anything. You deny science. That is a fact provable by quoting your own posts.

 

[ecco]

It matters not what anyone believes in regards to what the past nature on earth was like. Either you know and can prove it or not..and you just believe...like science does.

So, you state you know and can prove it, but you don't.

 

[dad]

When you provide historical evidence that spirit beings were real and influenced history, I might change my mind. However, I have been alive for many. many years and no one has ever provided any historical evidence that spirit beings were real and influenced history.

So, not only would such evidence provided by you sway me, it would change the course of history forever. I doubt that you can do what no other person has ever been able to do.

Doesn't matter. They are part of the record. If you deny it you are denying ancient history.

 

[dad]

I'm not throwing anything. You deny science. That is a fact provable by quoting your own posts.

False accusation. Origin so called sciences are not science..period. Real sciences I never deny. You just may not tack your religion onto them.

 

[dad]

So, you state you know and can prove it, but you don't.

Yes it is easy to demonstrate science can't prove what nature was like. Ask someone who knows! Or, conversely prove that nature was the same right here and now for us. Why pretend??

 

[shunyadragon]

@shunyadragon ,

Here’s the paper....

Telomere shortening and ageing. - PubMed - NCBI

Aging has nothing to do with the genetics of evolution.

 

[shunyadragon]

Yes it is easy to demonstrate science can't prove what nature was like. Ask someone who knows! Or, conversely prove that nature was the same right here and now for us. Why pretend??

Science does not prove anything.

 

[shunyadragon]

False accusation. Origin so called sciences are not science..period. Real sciences I never deny. You just may not tack your religion onto them.

False, and a total lack of knowledge of the science involved.

 

[shunyadragon]

Don’t be abusive and sarcastic.

That is all you have earned unless you can produce the science to support your argument without abusing science.

Actually, the telomere description is accurate...look it up.

No it is not in terms of evolution. Shortening of DNA with againg has nothing to do with evolution.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It is not what I believe that is the issue, but what very ancient records say. Spirits are very much part of that early record.

I see, so you confirm what you were accused of. You do not know the difference between myth and history.

 

[dad]

Science does not prove anything.

Got that right...too busy claiming stuff!

 

[dad]

False, and a total lack of knowledge of the science involved.

Any lack is on your part. False allusions.

 

[dad]

I see, so you confirm what you were accused of. You do not know the difference between myth and history.

The ancient records abound in what you label as myth. You cannot wave away all spirits and angels as myth just because it suits your religion.

 

[shunyadragon]

Any lack is on your part. False allusions.

What are your academic qualifications in science. I have a Masters in Geology and Organic Chemistry, and 40 years work in Geology, and three publications on coastal geology and geochemistry.

 

[shunyadragon]

The ancient records abound in what you label as myth. You cannot wave away all spirits and angels as myth just because it suits your religion.

No such first hand ancient records exist with objective verifiable evidence.

 

[shunyadragon]

Got that right...too busy claiming stuff!

No it is a matter of the falsification of theories and hypothesis by objective verifiable evidence, which you lack to support your claims.