Evolution My ToE

[ecco]

No kidding. So if that relates to the theory of evolution, such genetic realities also need to be true for the ancient earth. Sinc

How do you know there was no DNA on the ancient earth? Are you referring to before any life existed on it?

Fundy Fight?

 

[dad]

Of course, I knew what you were referring to when you asked if I believed in spirits. .

Rather than an honest answer (i.e. no) you toss up smoke and mirrors of liquor.

To be clear then, let's have you admit that you deny the existence of God and all spirit beings good or bad.

 

[dad]

Why tell me that?

YOU are the one who linked to "The 360-Day Prophetic Year". In YOUR link was the story:

The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach.​

Here again, YOU seem to be having a hard time keeping track of the thread and remembering what YOU post.

Are you now going to deny that you believe:

The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach.​

Apparently you are not familiar with bible prophesy. John was taken to the future and wrote what he saw and heard.

 

[dad]

Once again, your response is incomprehensible. That seems to be happening more and more with each passing day. Sometimes you cannot remember what you posted, sometimes you lose track of the thread.



Care to attempt a response?

Easy question. At creation, there was water on earth and also water above space. (where God put the stars) The windows (in science terms perhaps something like a wormhole that crosses space and time) of heaven were opened and allowed the waters on the far side of the stars to be transported to earth most likely. Added to this was the founts of the deep on earth opened suddenly, allowing waters that used to be under the earth to come up.

As for your comprehension of time itself and what it may be, do not blame your inability to understand on others. Just admit science doesn't know what time is like in deep space.

 

[dad]

Fundy Fight?

I asked a question. If anyone claims DNA was the same, and therefore could be used to tell us about where man came from, they would need to show that God created us with the same nature (therefore DNA) as we see today. More a science issue than 'fundy' issue.

 

[ecco]

To be clear then, let's have you admit that you deny the existence of God and all spirit beings good or bad.

Yep. That should have been clear from the word "atheist" in my visible profile.

 

[ecco]

Apparently you are not familiar with bible prophesy. John was taken to the future and wrote what he saw and heard.

Frankly, I cannot keep up with all the nonsense in your story book.

Frankly, I cannot keep up with your continued slipping and ducking and dodging and "stretching the truth" and failure to remember what you posted and ...

 

[ecco]

In any case, how does that affect your silly stories about God tricking Adam and Eve and God killing almost all humans and animals? Does it mean it rained for 80 days and eighty nights because forty days was not enough to completely flood the earth?

Easy question. At creation, there was water on earth and also water above space. (where God put the stars) The windows (in science terms perhaps something like a wormhole that crosses space and time) of heaven were opened and allowed the waters on the far side of the stars to be transported to earth most likely. Added to this was the founts of the deep on earth opened suddenly, allowing waters that used to be under the earth to come up.

Please try to understand the question before posting a nonsense reply.

As for your comprehension of time itself and what it may be, do not blame your inability to understand on others. Just admit science doesn't know what time is like in deep space.

The only reason you believe that it is different is that you want to believe it is different. That's hardly a good reason. Your desires do not affect nature.

 

[ecco]

I asked a question. If anyone claims DNA was the same, and therefore could be used to tell us about where man came from, they would need to show that God created us with the same nature (therefore DNA) as we see today. More a science issue than 'fundy' issue.

Why would you be discussing a science issue? You have made it clear you deny science.

 

[dad]

Yep. That should have been clear from the word "atheist" in my visible profile.

Great, so when we see spirtits as rulers or influencing ancient history you dismiss it because you believe there is no such thing. That is denial. Furthermore denial based on ignorance alone.

 

[dad]

Why would you be discussing a science issue? You have made it clear you deny science.

Don't throw a tantrum because some folks will not include the dark, belief based origin fables as part of what science really is. You made it clear you have no ability or wish to differentiate.

 

[dad]

The only reason you believe that it is different is that you want to believe it is different. That's hardly a good reason. Your desires do not affect nature.

It matters not what anyone believes in regards to what the past nature on earth was like. Either you know and can prove it or not..and you just believe...like science does.

 

[Bear Wild]

It matters not what anyone believes in regards to what the past nature on earth was like. Either you know and can prove it or not..and you just believe...like science does.

Amazing you do not understand the world you live in. Horseshoe crabs have been around on this earth longer than humans. Now you are saying the horseshoe crabs of the past were different just because we can't time travel into the past? Did they have tea parties back then when the world operated on an entirely different sent of natural rules. Oh I get it, its like Alice in wonderland. What magic mushrooms have you been eating?

 

[Bear Wild]

Great, so when we see spirtits as rulers or influencing ancient history you dismiss it because you believe there is no such thing. That is denial. Furthermore denial based on ignorance alone.

When you see spirits it is called hallucinations in medical terms. Your denial of science won't make the truth go away even if it makes you feel uncomfortable.

 

[dad]

Amazing you do not understand the world you live in. Horseshoe crabs have been around on this earth longer than humans.

Possibly, if they were a created kind, but we don't know that to be the case. Man WAS here days after the sea creatures was created, so if the crabs underwent evolving at all, it is likely that horseshoe crabs actually came after man. We'd have to look at the deposits that the earliest horseshoe crabs were found in. Ha.

Now you are saying the horseshoe crabs of the past were different just because we can't time travel into the past?

No, how would I know what original kinds they came from or were? You can't just make stuff up here as if you know something.

Did they have tea parties back then when the world operated on an entirely different sent of natural rules. Oh I get it, its like Alice in wonderland. What magic mushrooms have you been eating?

Spirits lived with me, trees grew in weeks, and man lived about 1000 years. That qualifies as different to me.

 

[dad]

When you see spirits it is called hallucinations in medical terms. Your denial of science won't make the truth go away even if it makes you feel uncomfortable.

Since many in the medical field are drug addicted and possessed anyhow, what they call spirits that they have no clue about doesn't much matter! The mental health fields simple declare any potential spiritual effects or influences to be something else out of ignorance. I would no more ask some drug pushing psychiatrist if spirits lived than I would ask a crow how to fix a car.

 

[nPeace]

Of course it's not unfair for you to ask to be able to "plot your course". So please proceed and present your scenario.

Okay. Continuing...
So because an error occurs during replication, that does not mean it will automatically be a mutation.
However, it can be a mutation - one that has been repaired though not perfectly.
If this is the case, sometimes the mutated gene can still function, and be recognized by communicating genes, as the gene that carries out X function. Or... to be continued...

So far, is there anything you disagree with, or don't understand?

 

[nPeace]

I don't know. I assume there was genetics of some sort. How genes and DNA work depend on nature. In Genesis (also some ancient history) men lived far far longer than they do today. So I allow for the possibility that perhaps the different laws of nature resulted in DNA behaving somewhat differently.

I estimate that the flood was possibly somewhere around the time of the KT layer. So, the simple question arises, do we have good usable DNA from before that time..or not? I think the answer is no. Therefore how can we know what genetics used to be like? That means that if people are using DNA today to try to tell us about the far past, that they are basically engaged in belief based speculation, that has no basis in fact.

It's anyone's guess, I suppose.
I believe DNA was from the beginning of life on earth.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Okay. Continuing...
So because an error occurs during replication, that does not mean it will automatically be a mutation.
However, it can be a mutation - one that has been repaired though not perfectly.
If this is the case, sometimes the mutated gene can still function, and be recognized by communicating genes, as the gene that carries out X function. Or... to be continued...

So far, is there anything you disagree with, or don't understand?

A mutation is a sort of "error". A mutation is any change in the DNA that is passed on.

LOL, and seriously, you should not ask others if they "understand" when you post rather obvious errors.

A mutated gene may still function. It may function better, or worse, or in many cases not at all. All of those changes are by definition mutations.

 

[dad]

It's anyone's guess, I suppose.
I believe DNA was from the beginning of life on earth.

That is fine to believe that. It is another thing to use it in theories such as TOE.