Evolution My ToE

[metis]

Actually the fossils of our recent human ancestors have viable DNA that can be recovered like the Neanderthals and recent Home Sapiens that can be compared to modern humans, and the change in DNA is minimal. Also the life expectancy on average was 40 or less. Though we have fossil evidence that they cared for the wounded, disabled and elderly.

Ya, as it used to be believed that Neanderthals were pretty much just ignorant thugs, but as more and more research came in we found that he was much more intelligent than previously thought, and also quite caring, going by the fact that they did perform some operations, plus they took care of the individual operated on since they would not have been able to hunt or even gather until better healed.

 

[ecco]

ecco:
When you provide historical evidence that spirit beings were real and influenced history, I might change my mind. However, I have been alive for many. many years and no one has ever provided any historical evidence that spirit beings were real and influenced history.

Doesn't matter. They are part of the record. If you deny it you are denying ancient history.

Part of what record? Your own beliefs are not historical evidence.

If you have actual historical records of spirit beings ruling nations, then it should be easy for you to provide it. You haven't.

 

[ecco]

False accusation. Origin so called sciences are not science..period. Real sciences I never deny. You just may not tack your religion onto them.

Nonsense. The fact that you try to equate religion to science just proves, once again, that you deny real science. You also deny Biblical Scholars.

Actually, you deny anyone and anything that does not agree with your fantasy world beliefs.

The bottom line is that no one agrees with or believes in your fantasy beliefs.

 

[ecco]

account in Exodus 7, where Moses confronts Pharaoh

Are you referring to the fully debunked story of the Exodus?

 

[dad]

False. I posted such evidence. You would not discuss it politely. Your loss.

No.

 

[dad]

That’s what I have been trying to tell dad in the other thread.

He keep making things up, like time we’re different before Noah’s Flood, but the evidence are stacked against the myths of people living over 2 centuries or more, like Adam at 930 or Noah at 950.

It is rare for people living in Neolithic period and early Bronze Age the age of 45 - 50.

That was not the pre flood time as you were told. Not even close.

 

[dad]

Actually the fossils of our recent human ancestors have viable DNA that can be recovered like the Neanderthals and recent Home Sapiens that can be compared to modern humans, and the change in DNA is minimal. Also the life expectancy on average was 40 or less. Though we have fossil evidence that they cared for the wounded, disabled and elderly.

Irrelevant. Post flood.

 

[dad]

ecco:
When you provide historical evidence that spirit beings were real and influenced history, I might change my mind. However, I have been alive for many. many years and no one has ever provided any historical evidence that spirit beings were real and influenced history.



Part of what record? Your own beliefs are not historical evidence.

If you have actual historical records of spirit beings ruling nations, then it should be easy for you to provide it. You haven't.

In Egypt and Sumer spirits were a big part of the record. Even today, in Japan, the emperor has to spend time with a goddess and share food with it etc as part of the rites of ascension to the throne.

 

[dad]

Nonsense. The fact that you try to equate religion to science just proves, once again, that you deny real science. You also deny Biblical Scholars.

Actually, you deny anyone and anything that does not agree with your fantasy world beliefs.

The bottom line is that no one agrees with or believes in your fantasy beliefs.

No sense arguing. There is no disputing that models of the past and TOE are based on certain precise beliefs. Wear it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No sense arguing. There is no disputing that models of the past and TOE are based on certain precise beliefs. Wear it.

No, they are based upon testable concepts. All you have is belief, that is not the case for everyone. That is why your beliefs are religious while what we know is not.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No.

Of course it was. You doom yourself to losing all debates due to your fear of learning and your avoidance of reality. The only "fishbowl" here is the one that you put yourself into.

 

[dad]

No, they are based upon testable concepts. All you have is belief, that is not the case for everyone. That is why your beliefs are religious while what we know is not.

The only concept used is that testing here in this nature is representative of the former nature. Your religion is not the only one.

 

[shunyadragon]

Irrelevant. Post flood.

Absolutely no evidence for the flood. The DNA evidence is for the fossils of our ancestors 10s 0f thousands of years old

 

[ecco]

In Egypt and Sumer spirits were a big part of the record.

You say that but you post nothing to support your assertion. You have shown and stated that you make stuff up. Why should I believe your comments?

Even today, in Japan, the emperor has to spend time with a goddess and share food with it etc as part of the rites of ascension to the throne.

Not that many years ago the Japanese people believed their Emporer was a god. That nonsense led to a couple of their cities being vaporized.

 

[dad]

Absolutely no evidence for the flood. The DNA evidence is for the fossils of our ancestors 10s 0f thousands of years old

The world abounds with evidence for the flood actually, you just misinterpret it due to your religion. Not sure why you keep tossing out religious time scales that are no better than the belief that a same nature existed in the past. Apparently you really are incapable of either proving there was your claimed same state past, or accepting that your dream dating schemes are of zero value.

 

[dad]

You say that but you post nothing to support your assertion. You have shown and stated that you make stuff up. Why should I believe your comments?

If you actually do not know about such rudimentary aspects of ancient history you should not be debating such things. Really.

Not that many years ago the Japanese people believed their Emperor was a god. That nonsense led to a couple of their cities being vaporized.

The new emperor still has to spend time with the sun goddess actually. History also tells us that wicked nations get destroyed especially ones that have had the light and reject God. Looks like little boy trump may have to get his finger out of the damn soon, and the world will get a new example of what happens to fallen nations.

 

[shunyadragon]

The world abounds with evidence for the flood actually, you just misinterpret it due to your religion. Not sure why you keep tossing out religious time scales that are no better than the belief that a same nature existed in the past. Apparently you really are incapable of either proving there was your claimed same state past, or accepting that your dream dating schemes are of zero value.

I am a geologist with a specialty in Geomorphology with over 50 years experience in the field, and I have been around the world. There is absolutely no evidence for such a world flood.

 

[Valjean]

The world abounds with evidence for the flood actually, you just misinterpret it due to your religion. Not sure why you keep tossing out religious time scales that are no better than the belief that a same nature existed in the past. Apparently you really are incapable of either proving there was your claimed same state past, or accepting that your dream dating schemes are of zero value.

No!
Such a flood would have left clear evidence, and there is none. Nor is there any explanation of how such a flood could have occurred. The logistics are simply not credible.
There is evidence, though, of human groundlings, animals and plants living right through the period the flood is supposed to have occurred, apparently unaware of the whole cataclysm.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Are you referring to the fully debunked story of the Exodus?

What makes you think it’s debunked?

Tell me, why would an Egyptian King be named ‘Jacob-Baal’ in the ancient histories of Egypt?
List of Pharaohs

Jacob is a specific Hebrew name, meaning “to supplant the heel”,

As Jacob did to Esau.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I am a geologist with a specialty in Geomorphology with over 50 years experience in the field, and I have been around the world. There is absolutely no evidence for such a world flood.

No!
Such a flood would have left clear evidence, and there is none. Nor is there any explanation of how such a flood could have occurred. The logistics are simply not credible.
There is evidence, though, of human groundlings, animals and plants living right through the period the flood is supposed to have occurred, apparently unaware of the whole cataclysm.

What if an all powerful God wanted to flood the Earth and then lied by cleaning up and planting false evidence? Of course that raises all sorts of other for dad. Why believe such God's promises of an afterlife if that is the case?