Evolution My ToE

[dad]

Still waiting for evidence supporting this conclusion

Me too if you claim the same laws applied? Just say you don't know and leave it at that.

 

[dad]

Still waiting for evidence supporting this conclusion.

The radioactive decay we see now is a feature of this present nature. Unless you prove nature was the same it loses all meaning for the far past on earth.

 

[shunyadragon]

The radioactive decay we see now is a feature of this present nature. Unless you prove nature was the same it loses all meaning for the far past on earth.

Your arguing for negative evidence that does not exist.

The radioactive decay correlates with the consistent sedimentary record without interruption. I relate to the consistent sedimentary record, and not on the radioactive record as primary evidence.

Still waiting for evidence supporting your conclusion in contradiction with the consistent uniform sedimentary record without interruption. .

 

[shunyadragon]

Belief based claims, be they from ancient pagans or modern men of science.

" As stories (or narratives), myths articulate how characters undergo or enact an ordered sequence of events. "

What is Myth?

The ape like characters and imaginary first lifeforms, flatworm like extinct and etc etc underwent changes to enact the life we have on earth according to TOE!

The definition does not fit science.

Still waiting for evidence supporting your conclusion.

 

[dad]

Your arguing for negative evidence that does not exist.

You are arguing based upon a nature existing in the past that has no evidence at all.

The radioactive decay correlates with the consistent sedimentary record without interruption. I relate to the consistent sedimentary record, and not on the radioactive record as primary evidence.

Give us an example for say more than 70 million years (so called science time) ago.

 

[dad]

The definition does not fit science..

Yes it fits fine. Time to admit defeat Shuny, rather than continually exposing your absolute inability to prove the nature you base everything on existed in the far past.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Thread topic 'Evolution My ToE' I responded to your post in context of the thread topic

Why respond at all? My conversation wasn’t with you.

Neither was ecco discussing evolution, but I don’t see you pointing out her non-evolution reply.

Tsk, tsk.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You are arguing based upon a nature existing in the past that has no evidence at all.
Give us an example for say more than 70 million years (so called science time) ago.

dad, you have denied evidence supplied to you in the past. That disqualifies you from demanding evidence. You don't even know that we can measure distances to fairly local stars without using time in the equations. We know what your response would be. You would unjustly deny the evidence given while you have nothing but a book of myths.

When are you ever going to support any of your claims with a reliable source?

 

[dad]

dad, you have denied evidence supplied to you in the past. That disqualifies you from demanding evidence. You don't even know that we can measure distances to fairly local stars without using time in the equations. We know what your response would be. You would unjustly deny the evidence given while you have nothing but a book of myths.

When are you ever going to support any of your claims with a reliable source?

Whether you pretend space does not include time or not changes nothing. You cannot escape time on earth or this solar system area...sorry. When we take any part of this area and use it in a part of a triangular measurement, the part includes time and space. Science does not know that time and/or space is the same out there, so your measure is a statement of faith that it is, nothing more.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Whether you pretend space does not include time or not changes nothing. You cannot escape time on earth or this solar system area...sorry. When we take any part of this area and use it in a part of a triangular measurement, the part includes time and space. Science does not know that time and/or space is the same out there, so your measure is a statement of faith that it is, nothing more.

No, we have evidence. But you do not know what evidence is and you are afraid to learn. You have faith. Faith is weak. Evidence on the other hand has a history of leading us to correct answers. Faith . . . not so much.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Likewise humans will most likely never understand the complex language and dialects of whales.

Or run like a cheetah.
Or fly like an albatros.
Or have eyes with a zooming function like an eagle.
Or able to regrow severed limbs.

I think it's hilarious that people like to point to unique human traits as if it means something special about humans, while completely ignoring that ALL species have unique traits - which is actually what makes them their own species.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Try not to fantasize when posting. The billions of years is faith based imaginary time.

No. It's based on multiple independent carefull and detailed and heavily scrutinised measurements of all kinds of things, all converging on the same answer.

We all know by now that if the data of reality doesn't agree with your faith-based religious beliefs, that you'll just assume that reality is incorrect.

But please, at least don't lie about it.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Belief based claims

You think newtonian physics is faith based?





That's HILARIOUS.

The ape like characters and imaginary first lifeforms, flatworm like extinct and etc etc underwent changes to enact the life we have on earth according to TOE!

As based on, derived from and confirmed by the data of reality.
Yes, we know that you feel like your faith based religious beliefs trump the data of reality.

But please don't lie. Just honestly say so: you are aware that the data of reality doesn't agree with your a priori religious beliefs and you don't care about that and just continue clinging to your religious beliefs.

At least be honest about your insane position.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Me too if you claim the same laws applied? Just say you don't know and leave it at that.

The null hypothesis is the default.

 

[YoursTrue]

Harping on terms rather than addressing the obvious is not honest.

The issue is whether great force could eject material great distances and heights.

Just reading this now. LOL, that's a good question.

 

[YoursTrue]

Still waiting for evidence supporting this conclusion

OK, give the evidence ok? For the first unicell and what happened after that. what was it, billions of years ago? Please, more than your opinion which is apparently in agreement with other people's opinions, ok? (Thanks...)

 

[YoursTrue]

Likewise humans will most likely never understand the complex language and dialects of whales.

Could be ... so apparently that technique wasn't passed on per evolution.

 

[dad]

No, we have evidence..

None posted.

 

[dad]

No. It's based on multiple independent carefull and detailed and heavily scrutinised measurements of all kinds of things, all converging on the same answer.

Circular reasoning based on the religious application of beliefs in a methodical way. The results are no better than the premise. Nor can any so called agreement (no matter how forced and contrived and altered several times) in dates be verified outside your mind. Any agreement is in a fantasy land past that no one could ever check.

We all know by now that if the data of reality doesn't agree with your faith-based religious beliefs, that you'll just assume that reality is incorrect.

But please, at least don't lie about it.

Name any data you think disagrees? The imaginary ages is not data, of course. That is conclusions based on beliefs alone.

 

[dad]

You think newtonian physics is faith based?

Any laws you want to project into Noah's day are faith based. Even if in some cases said laws did apply. But for any law or force you want to claim did apply we need evidence.

As based on, derived from and confirmed by the data of reality.
Yes, we know that you feel like your faith based religious beliefs trump the data of reality.

That says nothing, but reflects a personal internal faith in your religion.

But please don't lie. Just honestly say so: you are aware that the data of reality doesn't agree with your a priori religious beliefs and you don't care about that and just continue clinging to your religious beliefs.

Post said supposed data and we all can have a look. Cheer leading your own fantasies and posting vague worship posts really does nothing to address issues.

At least be honest about your insane position.

My job is to be honest about your insane position.