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Evolution of what?

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Lots of big words coming from a big mouth. How come "my beef" is "with paleontologists, anthropologists, osteologists and anatomists" or I am rejecting "taxonomy, paleontology, anthropology, biology, and anatomy"???

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You are probably rejecting all of the sciences. Do you believe the young Earth Myth?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Once again, by that definition you believe in abiogenesis. Your God would be an example of nonlife.
You're almost funny. Anyway in the meantime as you keep contemplating these things, why not tell your theist friends on here about your beliefs and see how they answer. The ones that believe in God and evolution.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
The creationist Carl Linnaeus was the first to realize that men are apes. It made him rather uncomfortable, but at least he was honest. And this was before Darwin:

Explain creationist. Then explain what you think an atheist is. Then agnostic. Then why is it gorillas and chimps are not seen to be evolving. Not enough time?? Not enough threatening environment? Let us know. In a way I feel sorry for you.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You claimed humans have only existed for 6000 years.
Who made and threw this javelin to hunt a mammoth 25000 years ago then?? The scientific community might be interested to hear...
25,000 Years Later, Javelin Is Still Embedded in Mammoth's Rib
Researchers initially found the mammoth rib in 2002, at a mammoth hotspot in Kraków, where scientists, over the years, have discovered the remains of at least 110 mammoths that lived between 30,000 and 25,000 years ago, the researchers said.


"Among tens of thousands of bones, during a detailed analysis of the remains, I came across a damaged mammoth rib," Wojtal told Science in Poland. "It turned out that a fragment of a flint arrowhead was stuck in it.
During this examination, scientists found the 0.3-inch-long (7 millimeters) fragment of the flint tip, which likely broke when a hunter drove the spear into the mammoth's body.


"The spear was certainly thrown at the mammoth from a distance, as evidenced by the force with which it stuck into an animal," Wojtal told Science in Poland. "The blade had to pierce 2-centimeters-thick [0.7 inches] skin and an 8-centimeter [0.04 inches] layer of fat to finally reach the bone."
That doesn't prove people killed them in [large enough] quantities to drive them to extinction," Lister said. Moreover, this particular mammoth died about 25,000 years ago, at least 10,000 years before mammoths died out in Europe, "so 'sustainable' hunting is implied, at least at that time," Lister said.
The dating and conclusions change from time to time. Nothing that posits humans existed more than approximately 6000 years ago can or should be believed.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Explain creationist. Then explain what you think an atheist is. Then agnostic. Then why is it gorillas and chimps are not seen to be evolving. Not enough time?? Not enough threatening environment? Let us know. In a way I feel sorry for you.
This has been explained to you thousands of times by now.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
The dating and conclusions change from time to time. Nothing that posits humans existed more than approximately 6000 years ago can or should be believed.
The Bible contains a genealogical line from Adam, name after name, from parent to child, one by one, with enough information to know when human history began and how it originated.

How difficult can it be to consider that family history as a true account, when the same Jewish history goes back to Abraham, who was the tenth generation from Noah through Shem and was born 352 years after the Deluge, in 2018 BC?

Gen. 2:4 This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time they were created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.
... 5:1 This is the book of Adam’s history. (...)
... 6:9 This is the history of Noah. (...)
... 10:1 This is the history of Noah’s sons, Shem, Ham, and Jaʹpheth. Sons were born to them after the Flood.
... 11:10 This is the history of Shem. Shem was 100 years old when he became father to Ar·pachʹshad two years after the Flood.
... 11:27 This is the history of Teʹrah. (...)

Terah was Abraham's father.

Gen. 25:19 And this is the history of Isaac the son of Abraham. Abraham became father to Isaac.
... 37:2 This is the history of Jacob. (...)

Jacob had 12 sons who became the ancestors of the twelve tribes of Israel.

So, Israel's history goes back to Adam, the first human.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The Bible contains a genealogical line from Adam, name after name, from parent to child, one by one, with enough information to know when human history began and how it originated.

How difficult can it be to consider that family history as a true account, when the same Jewish history goes back to Abraham, who was the tenth generation from Noah through Shem and was born 352 years after the Deluge, in 2018 BC?

Gen. 2:4 This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time they were created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.
... 5:1 This is the book of Adam’s history. (...)
... 6:9 This is the history of Noah. (...)
... 10:1 This is the history of Noah’s sons, Shem, Ham, and Jaʹpheth. Sons were born to them after the Flood.
... 11:10 This is the history of Shem. Shem was 100 years old when he became father to Ar·pachʹshad two years after the Flood.
... 11:27 This is the history of Teʹrah. (...)

Terah was Abraham's father.

Gen. 25:19 And this is the history of Isaac the son of Abraham. Abraham became father to Isaac.
... 37:2 This is the history of Jacob. (...)

Jacob had 12 sons who became the ancestors of the twelve tribes of Israel.

So, Israel's history goes back to Adam, the first human.
Not really since the account is mythical.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
Have you noticed that sometimes some fans of the doctrine of evolution can become stalkers if you don't agree with them? ;)
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Please, now you are pretending to be a giraffe. Wait to tall? How about a kangaroo?

Please try to be serious.
Unfortunately this is typical of your lack of reasonableness. Please refer to your God believing friends on here who may like joking around your way. And also believe in the theory of evolution.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Have you noticed that sometimes some fans of the doctrine of evolution can become stalkers if you don't agree with them? ;)
They like to make sly jokes too. And mention how little those believing in creation know as opposed to what they know. Yet while some say they are theists and also believe that the theory of evolution is true, they make little jokes with atheistic posters on here but do not explain why they believe in God and evolution.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
Have you ever thought that if that mythological being that was half ape and half human ever existed, would it actually have been a chimera?
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Eli G

Well-Known Member
They like to make sly jokes too. And mention how little those believing in creation know as opposed to what they know. Yet while some say they are theists and also believe that the theory of evolution is true, they make little jokes with atheistic posters on here but do not explain why they believe in God and evolution.
I don't see where the chemistry is in that mix either ... especially from the point of view of someone who claims to be Christian or Jewish.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
The dating and conclusions change from time to time. Nothing that posits humans existed more than approximately 6000 years ago can or should be believed.
The main conclusions of dating techniques has not changed in any decided fashion in the last 100 years and will not change in the future as well. The physics behind the dating methods is very very well established and is used everywhere, including developing the integrated circuit chips that makes the cellphones and computers work. The only thing that has happened is a few dating methods have become more accurate with lesser uncertainties over time and a larger number of samples can be successfully dated. That's it and that is all its ever going to be.
Of course you can continue to believe in the fiction that things will change to show your dogma to be true in some future time. Flat Earthers do that too...hoping that soon all shall see how science is misled into believing that earth is a sphere and will affirm that it is flat disc.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Unfortunately this is typical of your lack of reasonableness. Please refer to your God believing friends on here who may like joking around your way. And also believe in the theory of evolution.
You are the one that is showing a lack of reasonableness. Your beliefs have been refuted so there really is no difference between you claiming not to be an ape and claiming to be a giraffe. Not understanding how you were refuted does not help you.
 
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