Subduction Zone
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That is not how evolution works. If such a being existed it would refute the theory of evolution.
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Evolution of what?
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Subduction Zone
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Such epic projection.Evolutionists are like flat earthers. They just don't realize it.
I wonder if the brains of evolutionists are so unproductive that they are only passive repeaters of what they are told and are not capable of developing ideas on their own that can show the veracity of the doctrine they preach... like we, the believers in the Creator, do ... I do, because I think God is helping me on how to think and reason to defend the truth in a reasonable way.
But I don't see threads on the forum that develop genuine personal defenses of that teaching... Can evolutionists still think by themselves? Or not anymore?
They look like little birds waiting for their mother to bring them worms and put them in their beak.
But I don't see threads on the forum that develop genuine personal defenses of that teaching... Can evolutionists still think by themselves? Or not anymore?
They look like little birds waiting for their mother to bring them worms and put them in their beak.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
That doesn't mean the conclusions of dating objects and eons is accurate.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You really have not followed the debates rather well. And do you seriously think that any creationist has made a good argument against evolution? Perhaps the reason that you do not see anything new from those on the evolution side is because over 95% of all creationist arguments are PRATT's. Do you have anything original yourself?I wonder if the brains of evolutionists are so unproductive that they are only passive repeaters of what they are told and are not capable of developing ideas on their own that can show the veracity of the doctrine they preach... like we, the believers in the Creator, do ... I do, because I think God is helping me on how to think and reason to defend the truth in a reasonable way.
But I don't see threads on the forum that develop genuine personal defenses of that teaching... Can evolutionists still think by themselves? Or not anymore?
They look like little birds waiting for their mother to bring them worms and put them in their beak.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
When we can test concepts independent of each other it does show that radiometric testing is reliable, and this has been done many times.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
That's what I said...take it to your theist compatriots.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I don't take your word for it.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Frankly, surely you have not made a good argument pro-evolution. I'm thinkin' maybe gorillas are smarter with smaller brains.. they don't argue about God, evolution or creation.
Scientists like us believe that the only way truth can be found is through analysis of data gathered from careful observation, analysis and experimentation. This method has been extremely successful for the last 400 years in every sphere of knowledge. The conclusions of dating follow all these principles and is based on millions of man-hours of data gathering, experimentation and theoretical analysis of experts over the last 40-50 years. It has held up to scrutiny again and again....it has been found consistent with what other fields show and is coherent with the general body of natural sciences. The methods used are widely applied in all fields of physics and engineering. All of physics, chemistry, biology and engineering needs to be wrong for the dating methods to be so eggregeously wrong. And we know it won't happen because our successful technologies work every day using these principles.
So unless we live in a Matrix like VR world and this entire experience is a hallucination....the dating techniques and its conclusions are true and accurate. That is how it is.
Here is the list of technologies that use the same principles that are also used in radiometric dating. Its a settled science.
The diverse applications of radioisotopes in modern-day industry
Modern applications of industrial isotopes
Sealed radioactive sources are widely used in industrial radiography, gauging applications and for mineral analysis.Radioactive materials have a key role to play in the inspection of metal parts and the integrity of welds, using industrial gamma radiography to inspect critical internal components for defects.
Within manufacturing, radioisotopes act as industrial tracers to monitor filtration and the flow of fluids, to locate leaks, to gauge wear and to monitor the corrosion of equipment.
In the oil and gas industry, radiotracers are used to determine the extent of oil fields, to log formation parameters, to determine injection profiles and to locate cracks caused by hydraulic fracturing.
Gamma radiography also been successfully put to use in inspecting the integrity of critical civil structures such as hospitals, schools, civic buildings etc in the aftermath of natural disasters such as the devastating earthquake in Nepal in 2015.
Nucleonic gauges are especially useful where the presence of corrosive substances, pressure or heat make it difficult, or impossible, to use direct contact gauges.
In addition they also offer the key advantage of being employed without requiring any direct physical contact with the material or the product being examined.
You yourself can take an online course and see for yourself radiometric dating works
Accelerator Mass Spectrometry Radiocarbon Dating for Heritage and Forensic Science | IAEA
Is that an answer to my question or something?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You do not have to. You can do the research and find out for yourself.
Subduction Zone
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I have made quite a few. You cannot judge others because you constantly employ the ostrich defense.
Subduction Zone
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You mean any other apes. We can show species that cannot interbreed either yet creationists have no problem calling them the same "kind".
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
We don't usually speak of geography evolving, but certainly the environment is constantly changing. It's pretty much a scientific given. Plate tectonics, weather, climate change is a constant affair. But these changes are not evolution. The environment is not adapting to anything. There is no natural selection going on as to how quickly wind wears down a mountain, no mutation in the genes of a river.Many evolutionists are so obsessed with the idea of a chain of related animals that they forget that the environment around them must have evolved along with or faster than these animals' supposed biological evolution, or else they would not have survived in a hostile environment like the one that suggests a universe in formation.
Why do evolutionists limit their evolutionary theory only to animals, and forget about the environment that also had to be transformed to welcome them upon their "evolutionary" arrival?
For example: when did the water appear in the evolution of the animals?
As to water, life first evolved in water, so water pre-existed life.
Until humans began altering our environment, it pretty much didn't have a response to life. It wasn't the earth that evolved to accommodate new life forms, but the other way around entirely, new life forms evolved in response to changes in environment.
What a crime eh! People joking, God forbid if anyone is happy while you go around fighting the good fight, declaring those who doesn't agree with what you believe aren't real Christians.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Hardly. I suggest you talk about these things to those who say they believe in God and evolution at the same time.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I offered the suggestion already to someone else here. Go and ask those here who say they believe in both God and evolution
I have. I want to talk to you about your obsession with stalking them around the forum telling them they're not real Christians because they don't believe what you do.
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Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
No, Eli G., evolutionists do not consider themselves to be apes. But do not deny that apes are our cousins from from whom we branched off some 17 million years ago.Only evolutionists consider themselves apes.
They will continue to fall into the same void as always: "there were millions of years in which this thing became such a thing, in which the apes learned to do such things, blah blah, blah.... "
"The family Hylobatidae, the lesser apes, include four genera and a total of 20 species of gibbon, including the lar gibbon and the siamang, all native to Asia. They are highly arboreal and bipedal on the ground. They have lighter bodies and smaller social groups than great apes.
The family Hominidae (hominids), the great apes, include four genera comprising three extant species of orangutans and their subspecies, two extant species of gorillas and their subspecies, two extant species of panins (bonobos and chimpanzees) and their subspecies, and humans in a single extant subspecies."
Ape - Wikipedia
The greater apes have not generally done well and their species and numbers have been diminishing due to human interference, which is sad.
The religious have no need to think. Actually thinking is deprecated among them. The religious do not need brain, it is useless for them. For them all knowledge in contained in a 3rd Century or a 7th Century book, Only the evolutionists and those who accept the findings of science think.
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