Evolution of what?

[YoursTrue]

Sure man came from woman, all cases, every time.

Even jesus, moses and adam came from woman, not mud or dust as the stories use in make believe.

So do you believe humans evolved from apes?

 

[YoursTrue]

Do you believe that people should ignore evidence and just believe anything anyone tells them?

Sure man came from woman, all cases, every time.

Even jesus, moses and adam came from woman, not mud or dust as the stories use in make believe.

So you say men came from female apes. ok.

 

[YoursTrue]

Yep, the bible is in writing. Guess what, it's not the last word!

Evidence: the book of revelation suggests more is to come.

Every honest soul can admit that.

More is to come? Are you sure about that? Especially since you say that every honest soul can admit that.

 

[YoursTrue]

It is a variation of the old "if man evolved from apes (sometimes monkeys is substituted here), then why are their still apes" question that is supposed to refute human evolution and common ancestry.

How is that a variant? Do you believe man evolved from apes?

 

[Subduction Zone]

So you say men came from female apes. ok.

And male ones too of course. And remember, you are still an ape. Look at how your arms work. Look at your teeth Wait, what color is that? Oy yeah, it is red. You are definitely an ape. There are quite a few other traits that tell us that you descended from "monkeys". But ape is good enough for now.

 

[peanutlove]

You make a really good point. The environment and ecosystems animals exist in are just as important as the biological evolution of the species themselves. It's an entire interconnected system that had to co-evolve over long periods of time. For life to exist at all on this planet, all the right environmental conditions like temperature levels, water, oxygen content of the atmosphere, etc. had to be perfectly aligned. It's unrealistic to think biological evolution could have occurred without parallel changes in the surrounding environment as well. Evolutionists should be examining that bigger picture connection more closely rather than seeing species as isolated from their habitats. Nice food for thought here!

 

[Dan From Smithville]

So you say men came from female apes. ok.

Are you at all familiar with the claims of science regarding evolution?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

How is that a variant? Do you believe man evolved from apes?

Do you think that people should ignore evidence and just believe what anybody tells them?

 

[F1fan]

You make a really good point. The environment and ecosystems animals exist in are just as important as the biological evolution of the species themselves. It's an entire interconnected system that had to co-evolve over long periods of time. For life to exist at all on this planet, all the right environmental conditions like temperature levels, water, oxygen content of the atmosphere, etc. had to be perfectly aligned.

Not perfect at all, rather within a range of parameters that still allow natural processes to work. The last ice age was certainly very problematic for many species, including humans.

It's unrealistic to think biological evolution could have occurred without parallel changes in the surrounding environment as well.

Of course, evolution is caused by changing environments, which includes other species evolving.

Evolutionists should be examining that bigger picture connection more closely rather than seeing species as isolated from their habitats. Nice food for thought here!

Evolutionists? Oh, you mean the well educated. Aren't you one of these?

And what bigger picture are you referring to?

 

[YoursTrue]

Not perfect at all, rather within a range of parameters that still allow natural processes to work. The last ice age was certainly very problematic for many species, including humans.

So no evolution occurs if the environment is perfect, is that what you're saying?

Of course, evolution is caused by changing environments, which includes other species evolving.

 

[Audie]

You make a really good point. The environment and ecosystems animals exist in are just as important as the biological evolution of the species themselves. It's an entire interconnected system that had to co-evolve over long periods of time. For life to exist at all on this planet, all the right environmental conditions like temperature levels, water, oxygen content of the atmosphere, etc. had to be perfectly aligned. It's unrealistic to think biological evolution could have occurred without parallel changes in the surrounding environment as well. Evolutionists should be examining that bigger picture connection more closely rather than seeing species as isolated from their habitat s. Nice food for thought here!

You think "evolutionists" are really so
dim witted that you can figure good advice?

 

[F1fan]

So no evolution occurs if the environment is perfect, is that what you're saying?

You should have paid attention in high school.

Sharks are an example of living in a close to perfect environment. They have not evolved very much over 25 million years. There are species that have adapted to different parts of the ocean, like warmer water versus colder waters, or the types of prey a region has that causes subtle change over other species. Change occurs in populations when there is stress on them. Most species are extinct because they could not adapt. Some species have gone extinct but their genes have prevailed. One example is how Neanderthals have gone extinct but humans with European heritage still have as much as 2% Neanderthal DNA.

 

[Soandso]

So no evolution occurs if the environment is perfect, is that what you're saying?

"Perfect" is a weird way to phrase it and doesn't seem viable In the real world as there will always be pressures, but there are certainly specific habitats that cause animals (even animals not closely related) to evolve very similar body plans that maximize their effectiveness in that specific environment. Hence, convergent evolution

 

[Bthoth]

hmm every honest soul you say. that's interesting. Meantime yes, the Bible is in writing, was written long ago and it is said that -- water came before plants. Isn't that interesting? I think so. Of course it doesn't give atomic or molecular descriptions but then -- there are scientists figuring that out. Universities, lots of publications and books and explorations. (Have a good one...) Oh, and disputes and lovely meanderings among the experts such as: did it all come from -- nothing??? Yes! says one expert. Everything came from -- nothing. Or maybe it didn't. Oh yes it did. Something dropped to the earth maybe and began flourishing...lolol. Thanks.

from nothing? Therefore before a god.

Yes, each soul yearns for what is real: the truth!

Torah, bible, quran..... all left out the foundation of what is pure, the truth!


Any debate?

 

[Bthoth]

No what? Water did not come before plants on the earth?

DO you want a medal?
Water is all over the universe.

 

[Bthoth]

So did man evolve from apes?

I think there is a middle point.

Evolving from nature, just the same.

Man is not a magical creation within nature.

Did you look for the bones? Help at all?

 

[Bear Wild]

Why do evolutionists limit their evolutionary theory only to animals, and forget about the environment that also had to be transformed to welcome them upon their "evolutionary" arrival?

People who study evolution do not limit their theory only to animals. There is a constant shaping from both the individual/population on the environment and the environment on the individual/population. There is so many new ideas of how environment influences genetic expression which in turn influences the genetic expression of other beings within the ecosystem. The more recent research is deeply involved with the question of environment and changes in genetic expression. Ecology and Evolution are not separate at all. Science has been primarily reductionist and finds it easier to separate studies which in reality are inseparable.

 

[Bthoth]

Come on -- something dropped from the sky maybe and started it all. Or something began growing, multiplying in an ocean.

i dont have that chapter in my 'book of life'.

 

[Bthoth]

And maybe it was two drops...and millions or billions of years in between in all. Come on -- be reasonable.

Sure, you came from the same model; sex! Mother and father did the wild thing and to watch an embryo develop shows the evolutionary path as pure and true as possible.

Learn to appreciate the process, then a humility to learn is easy!

 

[McBell]

So you are saying that water did not come before plants.