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Evolution, violence and the existence of God

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
...and there are people who eat people (cannibals) but that does Not mean they are Not still people.
Evolved or conditioned. Whether one considers people as being animals is Not going to change that it's people who are the ones who read and write and spread the Bible's message on an international scale as being done today.
Animals don't do that. I find that animals nor ruling people can bring or establish Peace on Earth no matter how exceptional ones eyes are.
I agree that people performing cannibalism doesn't make them not people. I just don't agree that not eating people makes them not animals. People are still animals, just with a high opinion of themselves lol.
 

siti

Well-Known Member
"humans and apes share an ancestor. "

which was?

where are the fossils? when/ where did it live? what did it look like?
Something like this:
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or this:
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but probably with a brain size larger than the first and smaller than the second.
 

Nirvana

Member
Something like this:
55684.jpg
or this:
61429.jpg
but probably with a brain size larger than the first and smaller than the second.
Fossils- List of human evolution fossils - Wikipedia
I dont know how it looked like, we dont have the fossils yet but we`re sure of it because of DNA evidence. FOr more information, read Finding Darwin`s God by Ken Miller or watch this-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_c3CkSmT3c
and this-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohd5uqzlwsU
Read Douglas Theobald`s peer reviewed article on Nature. You can find other amazing books too and peer reviewed articles. Read the chapter on fossils in Dawkins` the greatest show on earth.
We have lots of fossils, the most recent being tiktaalik which is the perfect representative of the evolutionary transition fromfish to amphibians. This animal is really half-fish half-amphibian. We have other fossils which shows human evolution like homo erectus,Australopithecus etc. Just look, the evidence is there to see
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
Fossils- List of human evolution fossils - Wikipedia
I dont know how it looked like, we dont have the fossils yet but we`re sure of it because of DNA evidence. FOr more information, read Finding Darwin`s God by Ken Miller or watch this-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_c3CkSmT3c
and this-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohd5uqzlwsU
Read Douglas Theobald`s peer reviewed article on Nature. You can find other amazing books too and peer reviewed articles. Read the chapter on fossils in Dawkins` the greatest show on earth.
We have lots of fossils, the most recent being tiktaalik which is the perfect representative of the evolutionary transition fromfish to amphibians. This animal is really half-fish half-amphibian. We have other fossils which shows human evolution like homo erectus,Australopithecus etc. Just look, the evidence is there to see

we dont have the fossils yet

Just look, the evidence is there to see

So which is it?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
But. You CAN cross wolves with german shepherds, and get non-sterile pups. So much for "kind"--- it's a BS term, devoid of useful meaning.

That is because they have Not gone past their ' kind '. Same family type.
Can't mate a wolf with a cat, can't mate a german shepherd with a cat because they are of different ' kinds '.
There are hybrid flowers but they also reach the limit of their ' kind '.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
evolution is towards non-ego and non-violence.

If evolution is towards non-ego and non-violence, and was graded today would evolution get an "A" or ?
Rather I see the selfish distorted form of love being displayed in today's world as described at 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13.
That is in sharp contrast to the definition of love as defined at 1 Corinthians 13:4-6.
To me evolution is Not teaching non-ego but the verses at Philippians 2:3-4 is teaching to do nothing out of egotism, but with humility consider others as superior to you.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Meaningless term. ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS, then. You might as well say "GLUB-GLUB" as opposed to "KIND"
You CHANGE the "meaning" of the term to fit WHATEVER YOU WISH, WILLY-NILLY.
As I said before: "Kind" is a BS term, devoid of any use in Intelligent conversation.

I did Not change the meaning of the term ' kind ' because the term 'kind ' is found in Scripture.
Each reproduces according to its ' kind '.
Not asking for use in any conversation intelligent or otherwise, just letting you know what the Bible teaches.
Cats will remain cats, dogs will remain dogs, within their ' kinds '.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
I did Not change the meaning of the term ' kind ' because the term 'kind ' is found in Scripture.
Each reproduces according to its ' kind '.
Not asking for use in any conversation intelligent or otherwise, just letting you know what the Bible teaches.

I am aware the bible is grossly wrong on this issue-- it is one of countless reasons why the bible cannot possibly be from a god-- too many mistakes like this one.

Cats will remain cats, dogs will remain dogs, within their ' kinds '.

Except that isn't how it actually works, is it?

A simplistic observation easily demonstrates that isn't how life actually works on Earth-- dogs and wolves being the funniest and best proof--- they most certainly are not the same kind. Yet, you can create hybrid offspring that are non-sterile. Proof that your statement "dogs will remain dogs" is 100% false.

Were that NOT the case? There would be no chihuahuas, no French Poodles, no dachshunds, no bull dogs, no Irish Wolf Hounds, no German Shepherds, no Australian Blue Heelers--- NONE OF THAT COULD HAPPEN, if "dogs remain dogs".

We can show Evolution is True quite easy enough--- and that the primitive Bronze Age bible is quite False.

It is not MY fault your worldview prevents you from seeing Reality.
 
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