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Evolutionists, where, geographically, did man evolve?

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
God eradicated them.
And why would God purposely eradicate all men, women, and children, the majority of which probably are quite innocent of any significant wrongdoing? How can God be compassionate and just if God supposedly eradicates entire groups, including children and new-borns? Why should I supposedly worship a God like that?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
And why would God purposely eradicate all men, women, and children, the majority of which probably are quite innocent of any significant wrongdoing? How can God be compassionate and just if God supposedly eradicates entire groups, including children and new-borns? Why should I supposedly worship a God like that?

What eradicated were the physical bodies and creating the better ones (Homo sapiens)
 

Monk Of Reason

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Homo Erectus lived on earth for 2 millions years, what had happened that made the Homo erectus in Africa to be evolved to Sapiens whereas the rest all over the world to went extinct.
Different things. Most species are extinct. Only a few survive. The only branch off of Homo Erectus to survive was Homo Sapiens. I don't know if Neaderthals were also descended from them (I do believe they were) but they too also died. But they did not develop in Africa.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Different things. Most species are extinct. Only a few survive. The only branch off of Homo Erectus to survive was Homo Sapiens. I don't know if Neaderthals were also descended from them (I do believe they were) but they too also died. But they did not develop in Africa.

How an evolution for the branch in Africa had to affect the ones lived for 2 millions of years and living far away from Africa itself ?
 

Monk Of Reason

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How an evolution for the branch in Africa had to affect the ones lived for 2 millions of years and living far away from Africa itself ?
They didn't directly affect the other populations. The other populations simply died out or evolve independently.

And on Neaderthals apparently they split sometime between what we know as Homo Sapiens and Homo Erectus. They are even considered a sub species of homo Sapien by some.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
They didn't directly affect the other populations. The other populations simply died out or evolve independently.

And on Neaderthals apparently they split sometime between what we know as Homo Sapiens and Homo Erectus. They are even considered a sub species of homo Sapien by some.

We know that natural selection is the process by which individuals with characteristics that are advantageous for reproduction in a specific environment leave more offspring in the next generation, thereby increasing the proportion of their genes in the population gene pool over time. Natural selection is the principal mechanism of evolutionary change, and is the most important idea in all biology
Natural Selection - Biology Encyclopedia - body, examples, human, process, organisms, life, specific, energy, bacteria

Why the Homo erectus went extinct all over the world while evolution occurred in one branch in Africa ?
 

Monk Of Reason

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We know that natural selection is the process by which individuals with characteristics that are advantageous for reproduction in a specific environment leave more offspring in the next generation, thereby increasing the proportion of their genes in the population gene pool over time. Natural selection is the principal mechanism of evolutionary change, and is the most important idea in all biology
Natural Selection - Biology Encyclopedia - body, examples, human, process, organisms, life, specific, energy, bacteria

Why the Homo erectus went extinct all over the world while evolution occurred in one branch in Africa ?
Evolution occured everywhere. Only one survived. They were "evolving" but did not survive long enough to develop into a new species. Had they survived we would have had more "cousin" species to humans such as Neanderthals.

What specific problems they had that led them to fail while we ultimately survived is still up for debate. But is there more to your question other than just what evolutionary advantages that we developed that they did not?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
What eradicated were the physical bodies and creating the better ones (Homo sapiens)
That's besides the point, so the question still begs why would God play the role of a genocidal maniac?

BTW, this is also the reason why I simply cannot take the Passover narrative literally.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Different things. Most species are extinct. Only a few survive. The only branch off of Homo Erectus to survive was Homo Sapiens. I don't know if Neaderthals were also descended from them (I do believe they were) but they too also died. But they did not develop in Africa.
Yes, Neanderthal did evolve out of H.e., but now we also know that a small percent of our genetic makeup, which varies from one continent to another, is from Neanderthal stock.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
That's besides the point, so the question still begs why would God play the role of a genocidal maniac?

BTW, this is also the reason why I simply cannot take the Passover narrative literally.

And why not ? doesn't humans do the same ? why you assume that God should be always lovely and cute ?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
And why not ? doesn't humans do the same ? why you assume that God should be always lovely and cute ?
So, you now are going to justify God's supposed actions on the basis that other humans, whom we generally hold in very low esteem, do it? God expects us to be moral but He can act blatantly immorally?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
So, you now are going to justify God's supposed actions on the basis that other humans, whom we generally hold in very low esteem, do it? God expects us to be moral but He can act blatantly immorally?

How you can judge the deeds of God as to be immoral ? Do you justify for example the Jews killing the Palestinians children in Gaza as to defend Israel ?
If God chose to eradicate humans that he created, then it's up to him, how that is immoral, we are only a product created by God.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
How you can judge the deeds of God as to be immoral ? Do you justify for example the Jews killing the Palestinians children in Gaza as to defend Israel ?

If this is how you are somehow going to try and justify a genocidal deity, then you're just grasping at straws.

If God chose to eradicate humans that he created, then it's up to him, how that is immoral, we are only a product created by God.
Sorry, but I don't buy your "God".
 

David M

Well-Known Member
Evolutionists, where, what places, did man evolve separately? Good luck!

Homo sapiens evolved in Africa. They spread across the world from a migration that started about 60,000 years ago. There were almost certainly earlier migrations (as modern H. sapiens have been around for much longer than that) but they were ultimately unsuccessful, which may be linked to the population bottleneck for humans about 70,000 years ago which indicates a reduction in human population levels.

Humans (members of the Genus Homo) also originally evolved in Africa and spread out over the world from there in a number of waves and further evolved. For instance it seems pretty certain that Neanderthals evolved in Eurasie after ancestors of modern humans (probably H. heidelbergensis) migrated there.


Multiregional is what I'm questioning. I'm wondering how that is possible. same mammalian forebears? It seems unlikely.

Multi-region does not have any good evidence any more. The DNA mapping of the human genome is pretty conclusive. What tends to confuse people is H. sapiens remains dating before about 60k years ago found elsewhere in the world, Out of Africa does not say that humans did not leave Africa prior to 60,000 years ago, in fact some modern humans could have left Africa as far back a 150,000 years ago. What it says is that all living humans are descended from a migration that started 60,000 years ago, that H. Sapiens evolved in Africa and that any earlier migrations left no living descendants.
 
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WirePaladin

Member
How you can judge the deeds of God as to be immoral ? Do you justify for example the Jews killing the Palestinians children in Gaza as to defend Israel ?
If God chose to eradicate humans that he created, then it's up to him, how that is immoral, we are only a product created by God.

This is one of the most pernicious results of believing this crap. It reduces us to meaningless, worthless, THINGS. Puppets, playthings of some supernatural tyrant.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Homo sapiens evolved in Africa. They spread across the world from a migration that started about 60,000 years ago. There were almost certainly earlier migrations (as modern H. sapiens have been around for much longer than that) but they were ultimately unsuccessful, which may be linked to the population bottleneck for humans about 70,000 years ago which indicates a reduction in human population levels.

Humans (members of the Genus Homo) also originally evolved in Africa and spread out over the world from there in a number of waves and further evolved. For instance it seems pretty certain that Neanderthals evolved in Eurasie after ancestors of modern humans (probably H. heidelbergensis) migrated there.




Multi-region does not have any good evidence any more. The DNA mapping of the human genome is pretty conclusive. What tends to confuse people is H. sapiens remains dating before about 60k years ago found elsewhere in the world, Out of Africa does not say that humans did not leave Africa prior to 60,000 years ago, in fact some modern humans could have left Africa as far back a 150,000 years ago. What it says is that all living humans are descended from a migration that started 60,000 years ago, that H. Sapiens evolved in Africa and that any earlier migrations left no living descendants.

So, you are talking about some back migration into Europe, then. I have to conclude that, if we are even going to use the word ''europe''. why is there variation in Europe, to that extent?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
This is one of the most pernicious results of believing this crap. It reduces us to meaningless, worthless, THINGS. Puppets, playthings of some supernatural tyrant.

The crap is to believe that we are a product made by the unconscious stone.
 
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