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Ex Christians

Gnostic Seeker

Spiritual
So I've read a couple of posts about people claiming to be "ex christians" and I'm curious as to what they mean exactly. If you are an ex-christain were you in a relationship with Jesus Christ and decided you wanted the relationship to end? Was it that the belief of christiantity stopped making sense or something else entirely? Please let me know.

Mostly that Christianity stopped making sense, but the problems of a completely transcendental yet omni attributes god was also a factor.
 
There are two types of so called "ex christians." Those that never knew God to begin with and went off into more darkness, and those who had a true relationship with God but chose to turn from the truth.
 
I'm syncretic, something you don't seem to understand. It means I don't limit myself to one 'label'. I don't see the purpose in that. Does some church 'define' who I am? No.

Are you ok?Please do not get upset.I simply noticed you were not a buddhist anymore.That's why I asked.:(
 
Just look up the word syncretic.

I did.So now you are a syncretic? I know you just mentioned being a syncretic,Jesusist. How is that possible if Jesusist means:Jesuism, also called Jesusism or Jesuanism, is the philosophy or teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, and adherence to those teachings.

Syncretic means: the amalgamation or attempted amalgamation of different religions, cultures, or schools of thought.

So how can one be a syncretic, Jesusist? Those two words mean two different things entirely.

It is like saying you are an atheist ,christian.

Now I'm confused.......o_O

 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
I did.So now you are a syncretic? I know you just mentioned being a syncretic,Jesusist. How is that possible if Jesusist means:Jesuism, also called Jesusism or Jesuanism, is the philosophy or teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, and adherence to those teachings.

Syncretic means: the amalgamation or attempted amalgamation of different religions, cultures, or schools of thought.

So how can one be a syncretic, Jesusist? Those two words mean two different things entirely.

It is like saying you are an atheist ,christian.

Now I'm confused.......o_O
I'm not interested in arguing this with you.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
There are two types of so called "ex christians." Those that never knew God to begin with and went off into more darkness, and those who had a true relationship with God but chose to turn from the truth.

Not an accurate description in any way.

Epic fail.

How about discovery of the truth? The truth you seem to know nothing about from lack of education on the topic you falsely claim knowledge of.
 

Monk Of Reason

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
So I've read a couple of posts about people claiming to be "ex christians" and I'm curious as to what they mean exactly. If you are an ex-christain were you in a relationship with Jesus Christ and decided you wanted the relationship to end? Was it that the belief of christiantity stopped making sense or something else entirely? Please let me know.
I was raised in a Christian family. I was raised Christian and I really believed growing up and even into young adulthood. However I kept finding little things in christianity that either didn't make sense or seemed off or wrong. I didn't jump directly to atheism after leaving Christianity. I stayed a very liberal christian for a few years and then looked into other religions. I really liked Buddhism and some of the neo-pagan religions but eventually I found them to be just as empty and to have just as many flaws as Christianity in terms of how I saw the world and how they claimed the world to be. Eventually I had to accept that I was an atheist.

A world religion's course really put the final nail in the coffin for me in terms of belief in Christianity. When I learned that so many other people believed just as strongly as I did about starkly contrasting things in terms of god it made it difficult to believe.
 

dgirl1986

Big Queer Chesticles!
So I've read a couple of posts about people claiming to be "ex christians" and I'm curious as to what they mean exactly. If you are an ex-christain were you in a relationship with Jesus Christ and decided you wanted the relationship to end? Was it that the belief of christiantity stopped making sense or something else entirely? Please let me know.

Claiming to be ex christians? I would assume you either are or are not one or the other.

If one is ex christian, it means they were christian and are now not. I think the details of the deconversion is different every one.

For me personally. I spent 10 years attempting a "relationship" as you call it with both Jesus and god and it simply was like talking to myself and reading parts of the bible I had issue with. It took me a while to realise that the reason I didnt hear from god wasnt because he was a jerk, it was because he didnt exist.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
There are two types of so called "ex christians." Those that never knew God to begin with and went off into more darkness, and those who had a true relationship with God but chose to turn from the truth.

So there's no real way of confirming salvation is there? That would seem to render Christianity's assurances about salvation suspect and untrustworthy.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
There is salvation for those who repent and turn from their evil ways.

If you say so, but there seems to be little to no hope of confirmation of salvation. You say that there are only two types of former Christians: Those who were never saved to begin with and those who have rejected the truth of the Christian confession. It is reasonable to infer that you could never be certain of your status in either camp, so any assurances about salvation must be tenuous, at best. After all, perhaps you never know Christ to begin with; how could you know, one way or another? Similarly, if you are a believer, you can always apostatize in the future, which also makes your position uncertain. Either way, there is no certainty that you are saved. Did I understand that correctly?
 
If you say so, but there seems to be little to no hope of confirmation of salvation. You say that there are only two types of former Christians: Those who were never saved to begin with and those who have rejected the truth of the Christian confession. It is reasonable to infer that you could never be certain of your status in either camp, so any assurances about salvation must be tenuous, at best. After all, perhaps you never know Christ to begin with; how could you know, one way or another? Similarly, if you are a believer, you can always apostatize in the future, which also makes your position uncertain. Either way, there is no certainty that you are saved. Did I understand that correctly?

The topic was ex Christians.I pointed out who these are.There are the so called christians who really are not because they never came to an accurate knowledge of the truth.Then,there are those who were Christians who turned from the truth to continue doing as the world does.This includes Apostates.A true christians knows when they have received the truth.Also,just because one receives the truth does not mean they are automatically saved forever.They can always turn away.We are not robots.We all have free will.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
The topic was ex Christians.I pointed out who these are.There are the so called christians who really are not because they never came to an accurate knowledge of the truth.Then,there are those who were Christians who turned from the truth to continue doing as the world does.This includes Apostates.A true christians knows when they have received the truth.Also,just because one receives the truth does not mean they are automatically saved forever.They can always turn away.We are not robots.We all have free will.

Obviously, it's not so simple as your black and white thinking. But whatever helps you sleep at night. :rolleyes:
 
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