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Ex-Homosexuals Will March At DC' Freedom Rally

Twilight Hue

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TheChristianPost

Men, Women Who Left Homosexuality, Transgenderism to Rally at DC's 'Freedom March'


By BRANDON SHOWALTER Apr 28, 2018 | 4:55 PM

Freedom March, a worship service featuring former LBGT individuals sharing their stories to occur in Washington, D.C. on May 5, 2018.

Former transgender, bisexual, lesbian and gay men and women, including an Orlando Pulse nightclub shooting survivor, will be gathering in the nation's capital for a worship event next weekend to proclaim how Jesus Christ liberated them.
Sounds pretty typical for church shindig.

Don't know what's really newsworthy about it though.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Sounds pretty typical for church shindig.

Don't know what's really newsworthy about it though.
I rather suspect there's an agenda driven subtext to both the article and OP's posting thereof. Given the drive by nature of these threads, though, we may never know.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I asked, though, what do LGB need to be liberated from. You mentioned sin. Everyone ideally needs to be rid of sin. Why is LGB singled out when all have sinned?

Is there a sin specific only to the LGB community?

Not that I'm aware of. I'd expect the LBG community to have the same immorality issues as anyone else. (hard for me to say for sure being a moral nihilist myself)

Thats for anyone. How would it be LGB specific?
Going by OP

Why would it be, Going by the OP?

Looks to me from the article anyway they are trying to be inclusive.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
TheChristianPost

Men, Women Who Left Homosexuality, Transgenderism to Rally at DC's 'Freedom March'


By BRANDON SHOWALTER Apr 28, 2018 | 4:55 PM

Freedom March, a worship service featuring former LBGT individuals sharing their stories to occur in Washington, D.C. on May 5, 2018.

Former transgender, bisexual, lesbian and gay men and women, including an Orlando Pulse nightclub shooting survivor, will be gathering in the nation's capital for a worship event next weekend to proclaim how Jesus Christ liberated them.

Double winners. They get a parade for being LGBTQRS and then they get a parade when they no longer are. :D
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I repress anger almost daily. But at the end of the day I feel fine.
When I was repressing and denying I'm trans and have attractions towards men, I was morbidly depressed, often cried myself to sleep, and was suicidal and longing for death. Having vivid nightmares of going to Hell (to the point I could even feel my flesh burning) were also common.

Should have went to my church. We had a lesbian pastor. Well it was really my grandmother's church, but I attended services as a teen. She felt it was a Christian's duty to accept folks from all "walks" of life without judgement.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Right, folks should be free to choose according to their preference don't you think?


Seems to be a natural inclination for most folks. Hetrosexual usually perfer other hetrosexuals etc... Though some people seem more fluid in their preferences.

Preference is different than inclination towards something. If I had a choice, Id chose vanilla over strawberry; but, my inclination is more towards chocolate.

Our preferences dont always need to align with our natural inclination. So, I wouldnt call it preference. Some LGB prefer relationships with their opposite gender for reasons other than attraction. So, the sin part, if relates to LGB, has to do with something outside the inclination to act X and preference for one thing over another.

How is sin related to LGB specifically?

How are LGB people sinning when they are intimate with someone else? (Trick question ;) )
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Should have went to my church. We had a lesbian pastor. Well it was really my grandmother's church, but I attended services as a teen. She felt it was a Christian's duty to accept folks from all "walks" of life without judgement.
Honestly, at times I've wondered if I'd still be Christian had I went to a church more like that rather than one led by a Southern Baptist family from Arkansas. If I would have ended up leaving anyways, at least the experience wouldn't have been traumatic and the process of leaving like a towering skyscraper collapsing because of crumbling foundation.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Honestly, at times I've wondered if I'd still be Christian had I went to a church more like that rather than one led by a Southern Baptist family from Arkansas. If I would have ended up leaving anyways, at least the experience wouldn't have been traumatic and the process of leaving like a towering skyscraper collapsing because of crumbling foundation.

I hope you have/find happiness, I hope the folks in the Freedom March are as accepting of the LBG community as my Grandmother was.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Preference is different than inclination towards something. If I had a choice, Id chose vanilla over strawberry; but, my inclination is more towards chocolate.

Our preferences dont always need to align with our natural inclination. So, I wouldnt call it preference. Some LGB prefer relationships with their opposite gender for reasons other than attraction. So, the sin part, if relates to LGB, has to do with something outside the inclination to act X and preference for one thing over another.

I've alway thought both hetro and homo sexuals as having sexual hangups. Bisexuals as probably the saner group. I myself have a lot of sexual issues so I'm not judging, just bisexual as having more freedom in relationships.

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How is sin related to LGB specifically?[/quote]

No matter how many times you ask this question the answer will be the same. I don't know that it does.

How are LGB people sinning when they are intimate with someone else? (Trick question ;) )

Same way anyone else might be sinning, though intimate usually means a friendly arrangement. Via pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath or sloth. the idea behind sin I think is that it can happen anytime, anywhere.

For example I'd suppose one can turn to their partner and say "Hey, look at my big dingaling, don't you wish your's was as big as mine?" I'd think that'd be a bit rude. The sin of pride.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Honestly, at times I've wondered if I'd still be Christian had I went to a church more like that rather than one led by a Southern Baptist family from Arkansas. If I would have ended up leaving anyways, at least the experience wouldn't have been traumatic and the process of leaving like a towering skyscraper collapsing because of crumbling foundation.
You may well still be Christian if you didn't have to deal with such a nasty group making you hate yourself. It's awful how they drive people away. I know many LGBT Christians, especially transgender Christians. There's lots of churches that are accepting or at least don't make a big deal out of it. Even a lot of Catholics don't mind, depending on the parish.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
The reason I asked about LGB specifically is
've alway thought both hetro and homo sexuals as having sexual hangups. Bisexuals as probably the saner group. I myself have a lot of sexual issues so I'm not judging, just bisexual as having more freedom in relationships.

When you say one group of people are saner than another, what are you basing this on?

What specifically about someone who is bisexual more sane than someone who is hetero or homosexual?

You may do this a lot with any topic we stereotype by categories. Some groups of people more so than others.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's awful how they drive people away.
Indeed. They don't teach love. They only know how to teach and instill fear. To the point it makes you afraid to even go to another church because that might anger god. Fortunately I had the good senses to realize the Bible isn't a perfect and infallible record of history, work through the emotional turbulence of even doubting, and leave it all behind.
It's almost like being in an abusive relationship.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
The reason I asked about LGB specifically is


When you say one group of people are saner than another, what are you basing this on?

Personal preference. I mean my personal preferences I see as irrational. There's no logical reason for such preferences as far as I can tell.

What specifically about someone who is bisexual more sane than someone who is hetero or homosexual?

I don't see the logic behind having a preference. Do you have an argument that justifies one preference over another?

You may do this a lot with any topic we stereotype by categories. Some groups of people more so than others.

If I can't logically justify my opinion on a topic, I don't consider it a rational position. I still may have an opinion based on personal feelings. It is what it is, but I don't pretend it is necessarily rational.

I suppose in this case, not having a logical argument for preference, the lack of preference seems a more rational position.
 
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tytlyf

Not Religious
RW shill activated (or Russian). Spreading panic mongering propaganda in preparation for the midterms. Conservatives, fact check what you hear.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Indeed. They don't teach love. They only know how to teach and instill fear. To the point it makes you afraid to even go to another church because that might anger god. Fortunately I had the good senses to realize the Bible isn't a perfect and infallible record of history, work through the emotional turbulence of even doubting, and leave it all behind.
It's almost like being in an abusive relationship.
I wish you all the best in your recovery from it. You certainly have come far! No one should be made to feel that way.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
RW shill activated (or Russian). Spreading panic mongering propaganda in preparation for the midterms. Conservatives, fact check what you hear.
Since they never do others need to do it for them. I should have but didn't. This event was supposed to have happened ten days ago. Nothing about it in the news even from Christian sources.
 

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
TheChristianPost

Men, Women Who Left Homosexuality, Transgenderism to Rally at DC's 'Freedom March'


By BRANDON SHOWALTER Apr 28, 2018 | 4:55 PM

Freedom March, a worship service featuring former LBGT individuals sharing their stories to occur in Washington, D.C. on May 5, 2018.

Former transgender, bisexual, lesbian and gay men and women, including an Orlando Pulse nightclub shooting survivor, will be gathering in the nation's capital for a worship event next weekend to proclaim how Jesus Christ liberated them.

The freedom to choose who you love is a fundamental freedom, so I am glad for those who freely make those choices. I only wish that this freedom was respected by all Christians.
 
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