Exxon CEO Tillerson emerges as frontrunner for Secretary of State

[Revoltingest]

So I guess you look forward to Trump taking away your Social Security benefits and Medicare, you like that kind of stuff, don't you.

Your predictions of upcoming changes here are suspect.
Didn't you predict Hilda would win by a landslide?
We'll see what he actually does when he becomes Prez.
I'll deal with that.

 

[Lyndon]

You don't read the mainstream media, do you, otherwise you would have known all about the proposed changes to SS and Medicare.

What I did predict is that Trump would be the worst President ever and he would surround himself with millionaires and billionaires and make the rich get even richer and the poor get much poorer, so far things are going exactly as I predicted.

 

[Revoltingest]

You don't read the mainstream media....

You guess wrong on this.

.....otherwise you would have known all about the proposed changes to SS and Medicare.

I don't trust their predictions either, especially about the future.
People are always proposing things.
But the more extreme ones seldom ever become law.

Consider the vast mega-herd of SS recipients (including me).
It would be politically impossible to make changes which really harmed our interest.

 

[esmith]

Its funny how Trump supporters sacrifice all sense of common decency and doing what's right, let alone having their own opinions, to mindlessly parrot and support everything Trump does, get a life, Trump is not going to save you, in fact chances are pretty damn high he's going to be responsible for making your life worse.

Could not one say the same thing about those that went hyper over the Obama?

 

[esmith]

Hard to be upset with someone in this regard when I distinctly remember your weekly rants about Obama over the last year or so.

Sure I admit it now and I admitted it then that I disliked the policies put forth by the Obama, but unlike some that deny they are against a person President-elect Trump puts forward because they were put forward by President-elect Trump and not by what they will or might do.

 

[habiru]

"ExxonMobil president and CEO Rex Tillerson is the leading contender to be America's next secretary of state, according to two Trump transition aides.

Tillerson, an oil executive with extensive experience in international negotiations, has risen the top of Trump's short list for Foggy Bottom in recent days. Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani withdrew from the process late Friday afternoon, saying he planned to return to the private sector.

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At Exxon, Tillerson has been known for his ability to reach complex international agreements. He also brings deep ties to Russia: As an Exxon executive he managed ties between the company and the Kremlin and in 2011 struck a deal that allowed the company to access Arctic resources in Russia.

But that deal was blocked by subsequent U.S. sanctions against Russia — sanctions that Tillerson sharply criticized for failing to consider the "broad collateral damage" they caused.

Tillerson joined the oil giant as an engineer in 1975, working his way up to run the massive oil firm. If he is nominated, his extensive holdings in a company with massive international assets, as well as his personal ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin, could complicate his confirmation process."

Full article: ExxonMobil CEO Tillerson emerging as frontrunner for secretary of state

Thoughts?

I'd be pretty happy with this pick, it would mean Trump is serious about a new foreign policy that engages with Russia, with Tillerson opposing Russian sanctions and having an existing relationship with Putin and other world leaders. Unlike Romney, Bolton, Corker or Petraeus, who would signal more of the same neocon foreign policy. Trump has also made the establishment happy with many of his cabinet picks, he's earned himself a more maverick pick like Tillerson.

Well, everyone that hangs around with Trump are consider as Russian agents, Nazi or belongs to some other racist organization. I am surprised that they hasn't started on Ben Carson. I wonder if they are going to link him up as being the Grand dragon of the KKK..

Who is Rex Tillerson, the ExxonMobil chairman who may become secretary of state?

 

[habiru]

Ku Klux Klan Endorses Obama
KENTUCKY - USA - Imperial Wizard, Ronald Edwards has stated that, "anything is better than Hillary Clinton." White Christian Supremacist group the Ku Klux Klan has endorsed Barack Obama to be the next President of the United States of America. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-88116

 

[Lyndon]

The trolls just had to take it up a notch with the nazi propaganda fake news.

 

[idav]

What I did predict is that Trump would be the worst President ever and he would surround himself with millionaires and billionaires and make the rich get even richer and the poor get much poorer, so far things are going exactly as I predicted.

I'm not sure why the Repubs are so quick to give Trump there blessings on his picks. He is also picking a bunch of generals making it a warmongers and Elitists. I mean really the Exxon CEO? I guess when a portion of Repubs don't care about the environment there would be no problems, just make more money I guess.

 

[Quetzal]

Sure I admit it now and I admitted it then that I disliked the policies put forth by the Obama, but unlike some that deny they are against a person President-elect Trump puts forward because they were put forward by President-elect Trump and not by what they will or might do.

Which is fine, I get it. But don't get frustrated/short with people when they start doing the same with Trump. You are on the other side of that now and are going to have to deal with it.

 

[esmith]

I'm not sure why the Repubs are so quick to give Trump there blessings on his picks. He is also picking a bunch of generals making it a warmongers and Elitists. I mean really the Exxon CEO? I guess when a portion of Repubs don't care about the environment there would be no problems, just make more money I guess.

Excuse me for explaining to you a fact that you seem to have wrong. Military leaders are the last to advocate using the military until every other option is exhausted. You seem to not understand that they really know what the horrors of war are. Now, if they are told to fight they will do so, what they abhor is going to war without a clear objective and basically having one hand tied behind their back....as in ROE's.
I expect you have never served in the military and therefor should probably limit your comments to something you might know about. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, even if it is totally inaccurate and.....never mind I'll stick to the rules of this forum.

 

[idav]

Military leaders are the last to advocate using the military until every other option is exhausted.

What do you figure they might resort to other than something they are familiar with?

I expect you have never served in the military and therefor should probably limit your comments to something you might know about.

I've served but don't know why that should matter. Thats appeal to authority.

 

[esmith]

Which is fine, I get it. But don't get frustrated/short with people when they start doing the same with Trump. You are on the other side of that now and are going to have to deal with it.

I would not have a problem with anyone having a opinion, what I was putting forth was what I perceived as an attack against someone that President-elect Trump has selected just because President-elect Trump had selected vice do so on the person themselves. Yes there are those that are objecting to the appointment on what they perceive as that person going against what they adhere to. Fine, just don't condemn them because President-elect Trump has selected them.
You ok with that?

 

[Quetzal]

I would not have a problem with anyone having a opinion, what I was putting forth was what I perceived as an attack against someone that President-elect Trump has selected just because President-elect Trump had selected vice do so on the person themselves. Yes there are those that are objecting to the appointment on what they perceive as that person going against what they adhere to. Fine, just don't condemn them because President-elect Trump has selected them.
You ok with that?

There are plenty of concerns with his appointments, whether you see them or not. You ok with that?

 

[esmith]

What do you figure they might resort to other than something they are familiar with?

In the case of your objection to those retired military personnel being selected. The reason they don't want to commit the military is just because they are familiar with the cost of war.

I've served but don't know why that should matter. Thats appeal to authority.

So you served. The question is at what level. In other words were you just a body and only were concerned with those immediately above you and with little or no experience with the upper command level.
Don't know what you are attempting to say with the comment "Thats appeal to authority"?

 

[esmith]

There are plenty of concerns with his appointments, whether you see them or not. You ok with that?

Sure as long as you express those concerns vice just saying you object. If you don't present the concerns, how is one to understand why you are objecting. Is it because they are over or under 6ft tall, have blue eyes, red hair, bald, white, etc.
You understand what I'm saying?

 

[esmith]

For crying out loud...

?????

If one only served a very short time and was in the lower enlisted ranks one did not have the opportunity to be appraised of the mission and probably didn't really care to know.

 

[Quetzal]

?????

If one only served a very short time and was in the lower enlisted ranks one did not have the opportunity to be appraised of the mission and probably didn't really care to know.

You taking a lot of creative liberties about someone you know nothing about. It is rude at best...

 

[esmith]

You taking a lot of creative liberties about someone you know nothing about. It is rude at best...

I look at it this way. Anyone that says that military leaders are warmongers have little or no credentials as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Lyndon]

I look at it this way, judging from your comments, you're not winning a credibility contest!!